This thread has absolutely no impact on WCG and its existence does not alter nor effect the operation or purpose for which WCG was created. This thread and its mates do not speak to any WCG project currently contemplated and the removal of these threads would not have a negative impact on WCG in any aspect.

That is like saying that if we are doomed then we do not need to buy groceries. If we are all doomed, then there is no need for you to get out of bed in the morning, or any need to stop at the next red light.

There are lots of doubts about this thread as it does nothing to promote or enhance WCG. It is not a debate because only one side is backed by scientific research

I want to read about scientific experimentation and analysis (and the critique of that work), not uninformed opinions and I do not want to read about any of it in some random forum buried in a website where they are not contextually relevant.

You cannot support the premise that Global Warming is relevant to WCG unless you accept that having breakfast is relevant to manufacturing the Blackberry, and I do not accept either.

Just did the MathS, and you are right, I can't afford to keep crunching like this!
Every 10W over a year = £12 (or there abouts)

- The Muppets are now trying to TAX the Internet - Such Sacrilege is not acceptable. If there is no breadband, let them eat USB Internet Dongles!

There is little point kitting out the house with energy efficient light bulbs, and then running 32threads 24/7 along with 4 GPU's. So, I will have to wind it down several notches.

But it can wait until this cold period ends. Just enough time to think of a cunning plan

- Tour de France with dynamos?
- Tie the UK rowing teams into the grid!
- More efficient rigs?
- Boinc could go a bit Tegra.

Any brighter ideas?

My mistake, as there may be some research undertaken; it just has not panned out. What I meant is that there is no wealth of viable, supported, pure, scientific conclusions that counter the truth of the traumatic changes in Global Climate that mankind has wreaked upon the earth.

You are certainly allowed to believe that the world is flat, that there is no extraterrestrial life, that there is an unlimited supply of oil or any other 'Old Wives Tale' that have been conjured up over time. Feel free to speak your mind but remember that a falsehood does not become 'The Truth' just because you say it over and over and over.

But just so we are clear, my favourite is the notion that the average temperature of the earth will go down since it is going up. Sorry, but you cannot scientifically prove that. Time to put the turkey into the pot for dinner, then I need to go plant some trees.

skgiven I'm planning to find out just how much more you can do with less with one of these

http://www.lasystems.be/AMD/HD905EOCGIBOX/PhenomIIX4905e/product/182850.html 10Ghz over 4 Cores 65W TDP !

but, as ever, building a new system is out of my reach

(solid state drive and passive cooling - maybe)

currently crunching on a N270 Atom inside a Samsung N-110

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Atom

TDP (of the processor 2.5W)

Floating Point performance is terrible though on the Atom.

That said flat out crunching on the N-110 and you still get 5 1/2Hrs of battery life which is more than enough for a trip on the Eurostar as long as the snow doesn't bring it to a halt in the Tunnel


Keep crunching

Dave

David Autumns,
Your Atom is one of the slowest CPUs out there, in fact there are mobile phones with faster CPUs. A 1.6GHz Atom performs about the same as a 900MHz Celeron, from way back. So the 10GHz 65W Phenom II (also 45nm) would certainly do much more work -€“ about 9 times as much.

Although your atom only uses about 2.5W, the rest of the system can use a lot. I think your netbook only uses about 17W total, but all the Net-Top Atom 330 systems (1.6GHz dual core) I have tested used about 50W in total when crunching, which is Watt counts!
Some are of better design than others and my Ion uses 52W @2GHz.

A native Atom 300 with its two cores and 4 threads will only get about 325points per day. Even my 25% Over Clocked Ion only gets about 420points per day. Your single 1.6GHz Atom might only get about 160points per day. The 2.5GHz Phenom II would get about 1500 WCG points per day -€“ enough to keep you sweet.
However the 45W Athlon II X4 605e @2.3GHz is also worth considering. It is less expensive to run with a good system using about 138W total, running WCG flat out, and would still bring home about 1380points per day.

The most efficient Boinc CPU in terms of points per Watt is probably the i7-860. Although this has a 95W TDP and the total native power consumption running Boinc would be about 180W it uses 8 threads, granting about 3400points per day. If you Over Clocked it to about 3.8GHz a system would probably use about 220W (my i7-920 uses 300W @3.78GHz) and would bring home about 4500Points per day. This one system would cost about the same as two Athlon/Phenom quad systems, but even overclocked, would be cheaper to run than two 605e system, and would do more work than three!