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p.s. Today's the day I drop out of the top 2000 on every metric

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I woke up this morning to yet another day of inconvenient truth for Al Gore

another round of Man Made Global Warming lies are falling in huge white flakes from the sky, another consecutive day where we don't make it above freezing in Brussels

http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/EBBR.html

I check on the North Pole and it seems to be normal

http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/en/home/seaice_extent.htm

Plenty of room for a polar bear or 2, maybe even 3 at a stretch

I check on the South Pole and it's right on the money

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/seaice.recent.antarctic.png

The penguins are going to be fine

so I have a read on Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_of_2009%E2%80%932010_in_Europe

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_storms_of_2009%E2%80%932010

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_North_American_blizzard

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Asian_snowstorms_of_2009-2010

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_of_2009-2010_in_the_United_Kingdom

and I think to myself thank heavens for all that warmist propaganda from the Nobel Peace Prize winning Al Gore and IPCC. I am so glad they nailed the cause of all of this planetary warming that's going on. I'm pleased as punch they discovered it was CO2 - the source of all food, and hence life, on the planet. A trace gas making up just 0.0387% of our dangerously polluted atmosphere and for them not to claim it's caused by something stupid....like changes in the Sun.wink

cool <---snow goggles


Have a great day


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and I think to myself thank heavens for all that warmist propaganda from the Nobel Peace Prize winning Al Gore and IPCC. I am so glad they nailed the cause of all of this planetary warming that's going on. I'm pleased as punch they discovered it was CO2 - the source of all food, and hence life, on the planet. A trace gas making up just 0.0387% of our dangerously polluted atmosphere and for them not to claim it's caused by something stupid....like changes in the Sun.wink
We've been through all of this but you keep spouting the same "trace" stuff because you can't grasp the power of small numbers. A lethal dose of cyanide gas used in California death chambers is only 80 parts per million or 0.0080%.

Also consider polonium 210, 250,000 times more toxic than cyanide gas
which has a lethal dose of 250 milligrams by mass. A lethal dose of polonium 210 is one microgram (0.000001 gram) for an 80 kilogram person.

Venus is twice as far away from the sun as mercury but is hotter due to its carbon dioxide atmosphere. Other things besides the sun also contribute to temperature changes. The sun is not the only thing at work here, but only part of it.
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Just for fun: Who Done It... watch carefully as the query unfolds!

item 4... and we've known for sure since at least 1956 that we're doing it.

edit: And items 7 of course
At the mercy of the deep freeze: Schools shut, firms hit... now ...
7 Jan 2010 ... The Met Office said its weather station at Odiham, Hampshire, ..... IT'S ALL GLOBAL WARMING!!! And also - if the entire Northern Hemisphere ...


All these moans over those piles of snow... you need lots of ocean vapor for that and what are they?... warmer than last year, so much that the total December average was a Dave's lifetime Northern Hemisphere near record :D

Will it hold and still be there after mid Feb? The Bulgarian bears have woken early from their hibernation... and the male was pretty grumpy about that.
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I woke up this morning to yet another day of inconvenient truth for Al Gore

another round of Man Made Global Warming lies are falling in huge white flakes from the sky, another consecutive day where we don't make it above freezing in Brussels

http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/EBBR.html
Weather is not climate.
Despite icy weather, overall trend is warmer: experts
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jf2LCdHUxARpV6PddAczKlXRQV3w

Cold December Temperatures Could Provide ‘Lesson’ About Global Warming:
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/59675
NRDC Director of Government Affairs David Goldston told CNSNews.com Tuesday that the “cold winter” weather could teach people a lesson about global warming -- that “weather and climate aren’t the same thing.”

"And I think the same thing is true in weather. Month to month, you can have variations and, you know, place to place you can have variation, but the long-term trend is clear and what NOAA says, long-term, is that this is the warmest decade that we’ve ever had on record. The oceans this summer were warmer than they’ve ever been, and the ice in the Arctic cap -- ice caps are melting at an alarming rate. And there is just widespread evidence that it’s a real issue," he said.

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Here is another graph when you can see the proportion of radiative forcing due to natural solar activity:

It's not all due to CO2 either.

infrared activity due to each type of gas

more expansion and illustration in this essay
http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar4/wg1/ar4-wg1-spm.pdf
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Ah who would have thought that green grass and brown earthy tones would be such a delight to seeshock.

It's been almost a month, I first saw snow on Wednesday 16th December. that we have been permanently been iced over.

Enjoy it while you can, the NH Winter doesn't really start to get a grip until February hypnotized

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Sek on the subject of snow...


Just thought I would plot out the NH weekly snow cover values as found here

http://climate.rutgers.edu/snowcover/table_area.php?ui_set=2

From 1968 to the 1st Week of 2010

(there's some missing data from the early years which is why they are less than sinusoidal)

clearly an unmitigated disaster is being unleashed upon us all ;-)

Enjoy (it's in sq kms)



Sorry I should have said, so there isn't any confusion, clearly an unmitigated climate disaster is being unleashed upon us all.....not


Wrap up warm folks biggrin

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Sek on the subject of snow...


Just thought I would plot out the NH weekly snow cover values as found here

http://climate.rutgers.edu/snowcover/table_area.php?ui_set=2

From 1968 to the 1st Week of 2010

(there's some missing data from the early years which is why they are less than sinusoidal)

clearly an unmitigated disaster is being unleashed upon us all ;-)

Enjoy (it's in sq kms)



Sorry I should have said, so there isn't any confusion, clearly an unmitigated climate disaster is being unleashed upon us all.....not


Wrap up warm folks biggrin

Dave

http://tamino.wordpress.com/2008/12/20/heavy-snow-job/

We can remove the average annual pattern to compute snow cover anomaly:

I’ve added a smoothed curve, which indicates that snow cover has decreased over the decades it’s been tracked by satellites. We can confirm the decline by fitting a trend line to the data:

This indicates that on average, for the last four decades snow cover has declined by about 45,000 km^2 per year. In fact the average northern hemisphere snow cover has declined during this time interval by about 2 million km^2. And yes, that decline is statistically significant.
Springtime snow cover tells a different story:

This time there is a statistically significant trend, snow cover declining at about 68,000 km^2/yr. This is due to higher temperature causing earlier, and greater, springtime snowmelt.

The trend is even stronger in summer:
Average summer snow cover has declined at a whopping 99,000 km^2/yr. Again, higher temperature is the reason. The lowest average summer snow cover yet recorded was for 2008; the 2nd-lowest was 2007.

But the rapid decline of springtime snow cover over the last four decades, and the even more rapid decline of summer snow cover, show the mark of global warming unambiguously. And despite what some like to shout, the statistically strong trends are what’s important, not the statistically normal noise.

But I don’t expect any of this to reduce the noise we’ll hear from denialist blogs.

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