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flynryan
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Interesting problem happened. 2 of the RAM slots on my main cruncher stopped working. Did all the troubleshooting (single stick, replacement sticks, reseat, windows & bios updates, CPU reseat) and it seems to be in the motherboard. It refuses to post (3 beep error) with those two memory slots filled now. Will have to get a replacement motherboard at some point. Until then I am relegated to 16gb instead of 32gb. It's nice to have more during some heavy gaming and video editing. Crunching it doesn't seem to make much difference either way.
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I currently have 15 invalids for past 3 days. Have no idea whats causing it but have allot of valids too. This is on a ATI 580X GPU.
Bearcat, if you'd be comfortable sharing, what operating system is your AMD/ATI 580X GPU running on? The reason I ask is that I recently observed a Windows 10 system with an AMD Radeon Pro 5300M that had drivers from late 2019 where I was also seeing quite a decent number of invalids coming from that system prior to May 14th (maybe 20-30% of all OPNG results returned). I upgraded the drivers on that system on that day (my Radeon Pro Settings Version now reads 2020.0910.1544.28326) and for the past four days that system has not generated a single invalid OPNG result (and has returned hundreds of valid results over the past four days). That may be totally unrelated to what you're seeing, but just wanted to mention it as I would not have guessed older drivers from 2019 would have caused that many invalids.
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Win7 Pro 64. I just graded to the latest AMD package less than a week ago. Something tells me it’s the latest update. Didn’t have this issue prior to the update. Think I’ll go back to previous software.
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Until then I am relegated to 16gb instead of 32gb

As far as crunching is concerned, 16gb should be plenty for all the existing projects. I have 16gb on 32 thread machine and it is not even using half of that running OPN. It is using 5.1gb out of the 16. I am guessing with the size of some games you would be using a considerable amount of memory in addition to graphics load. I am not a gamer, but I occasionally read reviews when new products are tested and find it interesting to see where the bottlenecks lie.
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will not go quietly!!! I am going to dig out some old computers if I need to! wink


old computer(s), I like it! Careful, a couple of months ago I started plugging in old phones and tablets and next thing I knew I was buying used phones on ebay to set up a nice little android farm, although I have to admit the batteries worry me a bit. After 15 years of pretty mellow crunching I think I've caught the bug.

Speaking of old computers, I have a Windows 7 box that's been unplugged for 5 years, I tried to resurrect it a month ago when the OPNG units started coming out, it would have given me a third GPU but the machine is so noisy and hot I just couldn't deal with it, so there it sits.

Who knows maybe I'll swap out the fan with something quieter, or maybe it'll just sit there confused

Good luck with your older machines!
Element6 and SD Surfer, this fun exchange between the two of you last month inspired me to get an older system back up and running. I had a system with an Intel i5-3570 from about nine years ago that I suspected the power supply had died a couple of years ago paired with a GeForce GTX 750 Ti from about six years ago. A few days ago I ordered a replacement power supply and installed it last night and rebuilt the OS. In the first 10 hours, it has returned ~40 OPNG tasks and ~13 OPN1 tasks which I was pretty pleased with. I'm not sure how long I will keep it in action as it's efficiency isn't too great - it idles at about 36 watts, draws 81 watts under full CPU load with the CPU maximum processor state set to 99% percent, and draws about 120-125 watts with the GPU under load. But sure was fun to get some older hardware working again!
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I had a system with an Intel i5-3570 from about nine years ago that I suspected the power supply had died a couple of years ago paired with a GeForce GTX 750 Ti from about six years ago. A few days ago I ordered a replacement power supply and installed it last night and rebuilt the OS. In the first 10 hours, it has returned ~40 OPNG tasks and ~13 OPN1 tasks which I was pretty pleased with. I'm not sure how long I will keep it in action as it's efficiency isn't too great - it idles at about 36 watts, draws 81 watts under full CPU load with the CPU maximum processor state set to 99% percent, and draws about 120-125 watts with the GPU under load. But sure was fun to get some older hardware working again!


Funny, I had a system with the same graphics card up until about a year ago when I sold it thinking this thing is outdated and I don't need it anymore. The 750ti was a great graphics card for its time, uses relatively little power and is quite strong. Glad you got it working again.
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I have retired more machines than I care to think about. However, just about everything I have has had on board graphics. I usually retire them when I don't think the energy they use for the amount of work they do is worth it anymore. Once in a while I will fire one up just for old time's sake and let it crunch for a couple of days. Once the OPN project is done I will send a couple more out to pasture.
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Took a break from GPU crunching a few days. fired it back up to see if I can see a difference. Looks like maybe a third are turning invalid. Not sure why. Wish they would have separated the GPU side from the regular wu's to better compare. Will leave it for now.
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Took a break from GPU crunching a few days. fired it back up to see if I can see a difference. Looks like maybe a third are turning invalid. Not sure why. Wish they would have separated the GPU side from the regular wu's to better compare. Will leave it for now.

Is there any reason given for the invalid ? When you check the work unit, do others complete it successfully ? Does it make any difference in the outcome based on the total load of the machine ? I am fishing for any patterns which may show up.
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Others seem to finish valid. Have no idea why though. Looking at the wu itself, looks like it completes without issue but WCG invalidates it.
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