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Re: New project is coming!

I got 4 Beta Mam running, and they are running OK, and checkpointing OK too. They are progressing, but very very slow, so they will take much longer than ARP on this old i7-3630QM CPU, running om Windows 8.1.

This is the ones in question, and how far they have progressed:

BETA_BETA30_9800029_0371 Runtime: 20:23:31 Progress: 50,280% Time Left: 20:09:54
BETA_BETA30_9800029_0513 Runtime: 20:22:39 Progress: 45,570% Time Left: 01d:00:20:22
BETA_BETA30_9800029_0677 Runtime: 19:56:57 Progress: 43,720% Time Left: 01d:01:40:47
BETA_BETA30_9800029_0918 Runtime: 19:52:59 Progress: 46,110% Time Left: 23:14:17

Fun times, who´s in a hurry smile



I have a copy of one of yours... also checkpointing nicely
BETA_BETA30_9800029_0677_2
Runtime: 6:37 :00 Progress: 18.160%% Time Left: 1d05:52:22

The remaining time is way off on these units, jumps up and down.... maybe not enough data to guesstimate. Only hurry here is hoping it finishes by deadline good luck

PS i5-1035G1 running Windows 11
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Re: New project is coming!

I got 4 Beta Mam running, and they are running OK, and checkpointing OK too. They are progressing, but very very slow, so they will take much longer than ARP on this old i7-3630QM CPU, running om Windows 8.1.

This is the ones in question, and how far they have progressed:

BETA_BETA30_9800029_0371 Runtime: 20:23:31 Progress: 50,280% Time Left: 20:09:54
BETA_BETA30_9800029_0513 Runtime: 20:22:39 Progress: 45,570% Time Left: 01d:00:20:22
BETA_BETA30_9800029_0677 Runtime: 19:56:57 Progress: 43,720% Time Left: 01d:01:40:47
BETA_BETA30_9800029_0918 Runtime: 19:52:59 Progress: 46,110% Time Left: 23:14:17

Fun times, who´s in a hurry smile
I have a copy of one of yours... also checkpointing nicely
BETA_BETA30_9800029_0677_2
Runtime: 6:37 :00 Progress: 18.160%% Time Left: 1d05:52:22

The remaining time is way off on these units, jumps up and down.... maybe not enough data to guesstimate. Only hurry here is hoping it finishes by deadline good luck

PS i5-1035G1 running Windows 11
@pramo
Well, that's nice!
My BETA_BETA30_9800029_0677_0 task, will be finished in about 6 hours and 30 minutes. (If it survives to the end)
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Re: New project is coming!

I got 4 Beta Mam running, and they are running OK, and checkpointing OK too. They are progressing, but very very slow, so they will take much longer than ARP on this old i7-3630QM CPU, running om Windows 8.1.

This is the ones in question, and how far they have progressed:

BETA_BETA30_9800029_0371 Runtime: 20:23:31 Progress: 50,280% Time Left: 20:09:54
BETA_BETA30_9800029_0513 Runtime: 20:22:39 Progress: 45,570% Time Left: 01d:00:20:22
BETA_BETA30_9800029_0677 Runtime: 19:56:57 Progress: 43,720% Time Left: 01d:01:40:47
BETA_BETA30_9800029_0918 Runtime: 19:52:59 Progress: 46,110% Time Left: 23:14:17

Fun times, who´s in a hurry smile
I have a copy of one of yours... also checkpointing nicely
BETA_BETA30_9800029_0677_2
Runtime: 6:37 :00 Progress: 18.160%% Time Left: 1d05:52:22

The remaining time is way off on these units, jumps up and down.... maybe not enough data to guesstimate. Only hurry here is hoping it finishes by deadline good luck

PS i5-1035G1 running Windows 11
@pramo
Well, that's nice!
My BETA_BETA30_9800029_0677_0 task, will be finished in about 6 hours and 30 minutes. (If it survives to the end)


I'm not on here as much as i used to be but still - First time since day one that I've seen/been a live wing man :)
Just passed 21% 7:28 elapsed; guessing ~40-50 hours total, have ~70 hours until deadline. We shall see!
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Re: New project is coming!

I got 4 Beta Mam running, and they are running OK, and checkpointing OK too. They are progressing, but very very slow, so they will take much longer than ARP on this old i7-3630QM CPU, running om Windows 8.1.

This is the ones in question, and how far they have progressed:

BETA_BETA30_9800029_0371 Runtime: 20:23:31 Progress: 50,280% Time Left: 20:09:54
BETA_BETA30_9800029_0513 Runtime: 20:22:39 Progress: 45,570% Time Left: 01d:00:20:22
BETA_BETA30_9800029_0677 Runtime: 19:56:57 Progress: 43,720% Time Left: 01d:01:40:47
BETA_BETA30_9800029_0918 Runtime: 19:52:59 Progress: 46,110% Time Left: 23:14:17

Fun times, who´s in a hurry smile
I have a copy of one of yours... also checkpointing nicely
BETA_BETA30_9800029_0677_2
Runtime: 6:37 :00 Progress: 18.160%% Time Left: 1d05:52:22

The remaining time is way off on these units, jumps up and down.... maybe not enough data to guesstimate. Only hurry here is hoping it finishes by deadline good luck

PS i5-1035G1 running Windows 11
@pramo
Well, that's nice!
My BETA_BETA30_9800029_0677_0 task, will be finished in about 6 hours and 30 minutes. (If it survives to the end)
I'm not on here as much as i used to be but still - First time since day one that I've seen/been a live wing man :)
Just passed 21% 7:28 elapsed; guessing ~40-50 hours total, have ~70 hours until deadline. We shall see!
Same here, I've never met a wingman to any of my WU's here on the forum. smile .
"Our" WU https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/contribution/workunit/706400661 will be finished by me in about 35-40 minutes.
Two of my other long running tasks have finished now, and are waiting for the wingmen to finish.
https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/contribution/workunit/706400355
https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/contribution/workunit/706400902

Edit. added: I forgot to say Do not restart your computer, or BOINC, while any BETA tasks are running. Even though they do seem to checkpoint OK, they do not survive a restart of the task. One of my earlier Beta tasks that checkpointed OK, errored out after a restart, and I have seen on this forum that others also have suffered from the same issue.

Edit, added 2: I have now finished, and reported my copy of "our" WU: https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/contribution/workunit/706400661
Edit, added 3: And the last of my 4 tasks, are finished and reported now: https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/contribution/workunit/706400497
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Re: New project is coming!

Got many Beta WU's with long runtime or faulty start.
All WU's with 0.5% progress have no aktual checkpoint.
i will stop these WU's now.
The extrem slow WU's will rise Deadline, if they don't speed up i'll stop this WU's also.
			               Runtime			CPU-%	Progress	Time Left		Deadline
BETA_BETA30_9800013_0349_1 01d,22:30:59 (01d,22:28:55) 99,93 0,500 385d,16:48:54 4/29/2025 9:13:05 AM
BETA_BETA30_9800013_0778_1 01d,22:27:28 (01d,22:25:20) 99,92 0,500 385d,05:06:52 4/29/2025 9:15:12 AM

BETA_BETA30_9800014_0300_0 01d,22:26:25 (01d,22:24:17) 99,92 0,500 385d,01:39:21 4/29/2025 9:17:21 AM

BETA_BETA30_9800014_0727_1 01d,22:26:04 (01d,22:23:54) 99,92 0,500 385d,00:29:00 4/29/2025 9:19:29 AM

BETA_BETA30_9800016_0091_1 01d,22:21:43 (01d,22:19:33) 99,92 0,500 384d,10:04:14 4/29/2025 9:25:48 AM

BETA_BETA30_9800017_0337_0 01d,22:01:46 (01d,21:59:40) 99,92 0,500 381d,15:53:53 4/29/2025 9:31:00 AM

BETA_BETA30_9800010_0515_1 01d,21:13:06 (01d,21:11:03) 99,92 30,610 04d,06:30:21 4/29/2025 9:02:24 AM

BETA_BETA30_9800010_0538_1 01d,20:12:01 (01d,20:10:02) 99,93 28,260 04d,16:12:21 4/29/2025 9:02:24 AM

BETA_BETA30_9800011_0221_1 01d,20:01:38 (01d,19:59:42) 99,93 3,385 52d,08:37:56 4/29/2025 9:04:32 AM

BETA_BETA30_9800011_0204_1 01d,19:49:17 (01d,19:47:23) 99,93 2,555 69d,15:18:15 4/29/2025 9:04:32 AM

BETA_BETA30_9800019_0153_1 01d,19:33:59 (01d,19:32:04) 99,93 4,400 39d,10:35:04 4/29/2025 9:41:38 AM

BETA_BETA30_9800019_0838_0 01d,19:23:05 (01d,19:21:13) 99,93 7,890 21d,02:29:12 4/29/2025 9:45:54 AM

BETA_BETA30_9800011_0856_1 01d,19:20:05 (01d,19:18:11) 99,93 3,290 53d,01:49:57 4/29/2025 9:06:40 AM

BETA_BETA30_9800012_0962_1 01d,19:13:46 (01d,19:11:50) 99,93 1,460 121d,13:41:33 4/29/2025 9:10:56 AM

BETA_BETA30_9800020_0158_1 01d,19:09:56 (01d,19:08:00) 99,93 0,500 357d,21:59:32 4/29/2025 9:48:02 AM

BETA_BETA30_9800012_0434_1 01d,19:07:34 (01d,19:05:45) 99,93 1,485 119d,04:59:53 4/29/2025 9:08:48 AM

BETA_BETA30_9800011_0854_1 01d,19:01:52 (01d,18:59:58) 99,93 2,770 62d,22:26:35 4/29/2025 9:06:40 AM

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Re: New project is coming!

Hi!
My experience after 3-4 working with the MAM_Betas ::

Status WCG::

BETA_BETA30_9800007_0074(VMethod LOO) Too late no errors, but 2 errors from cocrunchers!

BETA_BETA30_9800009_0130 (VMethod NFCV) Valid
BETA_BETA30_9800009_0138 (VMethod NFCV) Valid
BETA_BETA30_9800009_0132 (VMethod NFCV) Valid

BETA_BETA30_9800010_0157 (VMethod NFCV) Runtime 3 Days + 17,470 % Done
BETA_BETA30_9800010_0159 (VMethod NFCV) Runtime 3 Days+ 18,610 % Done
BETA_BETA30_9800010_0169 (VMethod NFCV) Runtime 3Days+ 17,040 % Done

BETA_BETA30_9800011_0562 (VMethod NFCV)
BETA_BETA30_9800011_0573 (VMethod NFCV) 2 Errors 1 In Progress 1 No Reply
BETA_BETA30_9800011_0570 (VMethod NFCV) 2 Errors 1 In Progress
BETA_BETA30_9800011_0572 (VMethod NFCV) 1 Error 2 In Progress
All Errors Out of Memory (After Restart!)

BETA_BETA30_9800012_0178 (VMethod NFCV) 1 Error 1 In Progress
BETA_BETA30_9800012_0174 (VMethod NFCV) 1 Error 1 In Progress
BETA_BETA30_9800012_0166 (VMethod NFCV) 1 Error 1 In Progress
BETA_BETA30_9800012_0176 (VMethod NFCV) 1 Error 1 In Progress
BETA_BETA30_9800012_0168 (VMethod NFCV) 1 Error 1 In Progress
BETA_BETA30_9800012_147 Deleated from Database?
BETA_BETA30_9800012_0651 Both of them In Progress
BETA_BETA30_9800012_0609 (VMethod NFCV) 1 Error 1 In Progress
BETA_BETA30_9800012_0589 (VMethod NFCV) 1 Error 1 In Progress
All Errors done by me, restarting boinc or computer!

BETA_BETA30_9800014_0662 Both of them In Progress
BETA_BETA30_9800014_0658 Both of them In Progress
BETA_BETA30_9800014_0659 Both of them In Progress
BETA_BETA30_9800014_0655 Both of them In Progress
BETA_BETA30_9800014_0641 Both of them In Progress
BETA_BETA30_9800014_0631 Both of them In Progress

BETA_BETA30_9800014_0654 Aborted by me, no Checkpointing 1 In Progress
BETA_BETA30_9800014_0629 Aborted by me, no Checkpointing 1 In Progress
BETA_BETA30_9800014_0630 Aborted by me, no Checkpointing 1 In Progress

BETA_BETA30_9800023_0500 Aborted by me, no Checkpointing 1 In Progress
BETA_BETA30_9800023_0501 Aborted by me, no Checkpointing 1 In Progress
BETA_BETA30_9800023_0472 Aborted by me, no Checkpointing 1 In Progress
BETA_BETA30_9800023_0488 Aborted by me, no Checkpointing 1 In Progress

BETA_BETA30_9800029_0360 (VMethod NFCV) 1 Error,1 User aborted and 2 In Progress
BETA_BETA30_9800029_0400 (VMethod NFCV) 2 Errors and 2 VALID!
Error caused by restart.

BETA_BETA30_9800030_0582 (VMethod NFCV) 2 Errors, 1 User Aborted And 2 In Progress
1 Error (SIGABRT) Linux Mint and 1 User Aborted Linux Fedora, the 3 Others under Win!

Looking forward to more Wus for the time being no availible tasks!!

Hans S.
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Re: New project is coming!

To support staff:

I have forwarded details of beta WU's listed as "in progress" in my systems via email. Some ARE progressing and some seem stuck.

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As we don't have an official "provide feedback on this Beta" thread[*1], various threads contain [multiple] posts about the long-running tasks and quite a few suggestions as to what to do with them...

WCG have already acknowledged the issues with the early Betas (such as 9800010, which still keeps getting a mention!) in the "Operational Status" update, posted after the 2025-04-26 system recovery. I mentioned it on the previous page :-) and will repost the key bit of that update:
We have updated the workunit records in the BOINC database on 2025-04-25 for all these workunits in this range of batches to hopefully prevent resends and Server Abort any BETA workunits that were awaiting a free slot to begin execution on BOINC clients. For those who continue to run these long running workunits, we will monitor those that remain outstanding and continue to extend deadlines.
I also remarked that if a user is concerned about long-running tasks it is probably worth checking the workunit status using the web site. If the wingman has aborted and no retry has been sent out, the other copy might as well be aborted as well (especially if it says "replication 0"...)

Cheers - Al.

*1 That lack is a point that has been made in several of the threads here :-)
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I tried to count the tasks to their final deadline, but there was a power outage... Surprisingly, after rebooting, some tasks showed non-zero elapsed time (more than one day) and the same 0.5%.

Had to drop 8 tasks beta 15.
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Re: New project is coming!

I got 4 Beta Mam running, and they are running OK, and checkpointing OK too. They are progressing, but very very slow, so they will take much longer than ARP on this old i7-3630QM CPU, running om Windows 8.1.

This is the ones in question, and how far they have progressed:

BETA_BETA30_9800029_0371 Runtime: 20:23:31 Progress: 50,280% Time Left: 20:09:54
BETA_BETA30_9800029_0513 Runtime: 20:22:39 Progress: 45,570% Time Left: 01d:00:20:22
BETA_BETA30_9800029_0677 Runtime: 19:56:57 Progress: 43,720% Time Left: 01d:01:40:47
BETA_BETA30_9800029_0918 Runtime: 19:52:59 Progress: 46,110% Time Left: 23:14:17

Fun times, who´s in a hurry smile
I have a copy of one of yours... also checkpointing nicely
BETA_BETA30_9800029_0677_2
Runtime: 6:37 :00 Progress: 18.160%% Time Left: 1d05:52:22

The remaining time is way off on these units, jumps up and down.... maybe not enough data to guesstimate. Only hurry here is hoping it finishes by deadline good luck

PS i5-1035G1 running Windows 11
@pramo
Well, that's nice!
My BETA_BETA30_9800029_0677_0 task, will be finished in about 6 hours and 30 minutes. (If it survives to the end)
I'm not on here as much as i used to be but still - First time since day one that I've seen/been a live wing man :)
Just passed 21% 7:28 elapsed; guessing ~40-50 hours total, have ~70 hours until deadline. We shall see!
Same here, I've never met a wingman to any of my WU's here on the forum. smile .
"Our" WU https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/contribution/workunit/706400661 will be finished by me in about 35-40 minutes.
Two of my other long running tasks have finished now, and are waiting for the wingmen to finish.
https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/contribution/workunit/706400355
https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/contribution/workunit/706400902

Edit. added: I forgot to say Do not restart your computer, or BOINC, while any BETA tasks are running. Even though they do seem to checkpoint OK, they do not survive a restart of the task. One of my earlier Beta tasks that checkpointed OK, errored out after a restart, and I have seen on this forum that others also have suffered from the same issue.

Edit, added 2: I have now finished, and reported my copy of "our" WU: https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/contribution/workunit/706400661
Edit, added 3: And the last of my 4 tasks, are finished and reported now: https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/contribution/workunit/706400497


89.3% 1d:31:31:20 4:29:14 to go
Have to say i stopped other tasks to let the beta get more percentage, 8 vcores letting only 3 run etc
89.850% 1d13:37.27 04:04 left
I'm hoping it will finish ok !
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