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adriverhoef
Master Cruncher The Netherlands Joined: Apr 3, 2009 Post Count: 2181 Status: Recently Active Project Badges: 
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The photos were a totally separate project. I got it finished within a week ……. It’s such a pleasure to see your elegant work. Do all the pictures come in nice squares or do you have to crop them/resize them?Your catalogue of you own collection is so neat, too. I stumbled over Papa Bue’s Viking Jazz Band – so funny. You don’t want me to supply a small correction, do you? Please do! It can only get better.  ’Sblvstænk I Dit Gyldne Hår’ should be ’Sølvstænk …’ (Stains of Silver in Your Golden Hair). Thanks! It has already been corrected by the moderators while writing this. I saw another misteak  there: "Es War Im Schöneberg (Det Var Pa Frederiksberg)" ('Pa' should be 'På').Beatrix gave up the throne in favor of her son, didn’t she? Whoa, 'van de hak op de tak springen' (= to ramble from one subject to another) as we say here. Never mind.  You have a great tradition of female monarchs. Wilhelmina, Juliane, and Beatrix. You have been far ahead of any women's rights movements. Very applaudable. There's even more: Emma (second wife of king Willem III) preceded (as regent) Wilhelmina. Why mention Emma here? "Emma was fully committed to the fight against tuberculosis, at that time (±1900) the most prominent disease, and did much charity. She herself had lost one of her sisters, Sophie, to TB."Only when it was obvious that our present Queen Margrethe II wouldn’t get any brothers, did they change the constitution (in 1953) so that women could become heads of state. However, it’s still a macho legislation. Male inheritance supercedes female – so if there is a little brother, he’ll take it all. Juliana gave birth to four children, all daughters, the first one was Beatrix and she became our queen in 1980 after the abdication of queen Juliana. Beatrix gave birth to three sons, Willem Alexander being the oldest. He married Máxima on 02-02-2002. EDIT: A note about windmilling. I think my father never learned about these signals, as the wings ('(molen)wieken') were removed from the mill in his youth. (EDIT: added the word 'never') [Edit 2 times, last edit by adriverhoef at Feb 22, 2018 12:56:40 PM] |
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Female royalty installment
Nice to know that female rulers were/are accepted – even valued I would have thought the photos had taken a lot of time – and then you did them in one week! It seems as if some kind of automatization went into it as you describe it. I have tried something similar in Microsoft Word with text frames where the photos adapted to a certain frame size. I did notice ’Det Var pa/på Frederiksberg’ but I didn’t want to hurt your feelings or act as a Besserwisser/critic. On the other hand: If you need to have something checked in Danish, I’m here. How interesting with Wilhelmina’s mother Emma, Queen consort and queen mother. She must have cemented the Netherland’s willingness to accept female rulers (I think provided they are wise, which they seem to have been). It must feel a little strange suddenly to have a male as your head of state. England had Elizabeth I, and certainly Denmark had Margrethe I even earlier. She was a tough cookie and far ahead of her time. She created a Scandinavian common market so to speak: the Treaty of Kalmar. Out of curiosity: How do you regard the Netherlands being a monarchy as opposed to a republic? So, how far are you now with your 400 OCR pages + another 100 and many, many more to come? How does the frontdeskcomputer perform? How do you stack up to thunder7 now (or would you rather not talk about it?). Do you gain on him with the new frontdeskcomputer? I notice his team Easynews thunder along in this challenge and that thunder7 is the #10 contributor of that entire race. I just checked – top40.nl still benefits from ultimaThule remaining with you after the great trek we had. Base Camp has had the good luck to entice acpartsman in trekking. Just last night he gave birth to a promotional idea, which I think should adorn this place:      What do you say? Don't you wish you could install another top40.nl cruncher as a captain occasionally and go trekking with Base Camp? |
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adriverhoef
Master Cruncher The Netherlands Joined: Apr 3, 2009 Post Count: 2181 Status: Recently Active Project Badges:
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I did notice ’Det Var pa/på Frederiksberg’ but I didn’t want to hurt your feelings or act as a Besserwisser/critic. Don't see why it would hurt my feelings. They are not my It must feel a little strange suddenly to have a male as your head of state. The biggest change for me is the name of the national holiday: it was 'koninginnedag' (Queen's Day) and now it is 'koningsdag' (King's Day).  Out of curiosity: How do you regard the Netherlands being a monarchy as opposed to a republic? Well, I feel that a king or queen doesn't represent a political party, while a republican would be an elected official who would most probably come from a political party and since the Dutch have a very low confidence in politics, a monarchy just feels better.So, how far are you now with your 400 OCR pages + another 100 and many, many more to come? I thought I told you the amount has increased to 600, mevrouw Kleine Zeemeermin?  In the meantime I've processed 28%, slightly more than last month.How do you stack up to thunder7 now (or would you rather not talk about it?). Well, it's interesting to note — while I'm not gaining anything on thunder7 — that another cruncher, namely WCW.GOLFhack (formerly known as WCW.saHACKra), has taken up crunching at WCG again, chalking up over 10,000,000 points a day  (since the end of February 2018)! The name-change surely must have something to do with SURFsara (surfing is performed on waves and the Dutch word for wave is 'golf'). Another interesting feat, thanks to the new frontdeskcomputer, is its accomplishment of getting back (made it just today!  woohoo!) to the 8th place in the Dutch rankings:7 WesWCG 286,149,929 |
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Former Member
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Monarchy installment
Republics have this taste of politicians … Many people are touchy about being corrected or reprimanded. Me, I'm a downright bitch when it comes to that. So therefore I try to tread cautiously going in the opposite direction ... Even if they are not your missedsteaks, I might trigger unintended bad vibrations. Yes, I can see that King's and Queen's days need a bit getting adjusted to. Did the Queen's day take priority over the King's when the Queen was the King so to speak? I'm completely in agreement with you. As long as the royal family produces intelligent and pleasant offspring, a monarch is a far better choice (mainly because you don't have a choice) for head of state than a politician as a President. There are horrible presidents around the world - some of them even try to establish dynasties - whereas - in spite of scandals almost invented by the gossip magazines - the royal families tend to manage fairly well - and being human as well with regards to divorces, infidelity, overweight, smoking and whims and what have you. When you think about it: Monarchies are not that numerous. A cluster of them in the Northern and Western part of Europe - UK included whether they want it or not - Spain, and a few scattered ones in Asia and Africa. Yes, you told me about your workload getting heavier and heavier. I forgot the very specifics of how the story goes. I know the first verse: 400 OCR pages and the second 100 OCR pages on top of that and more to come. After that it begins to get blurry. I'm sorry. Would you remember any of my excersises if I had told you? That's part of my job these day. And keeping track of appointments. Each step seems to take an entire workday to get in order. Then everybody gets the type B flu to mess up matters. Got one they forgot to give me with cardiology scheduled - almost - today. One phone call to one department resulted in an appointment with another department with no say on my part whatsoever. So of course that clashed with another one, so I tried to change that. "Could you call back Monday? We are told not to touch any appointments for anyone." That's our new nationwide 'Health Platform' which we all - health personel and patients - do our best to live with and not to die from. We'll get there. It has more features and possibilities than it's creator thought he created in his wildest dreams. It's a mammoth, a mastodont, and a monster that manages our life and death. If you remember ’stationary bicycling’ it would be fine I'll write 28% behind my ear, adriverhoef. That's the Northern Tribe's notepad ... see, I still display signs of hurt  You may have noticed that Base Camp has a new Camper, acpartsman, who is able to bring joy to anyone he visits, not only with his machines, with his attitude as well. Almost like when the Base Camp thread was Grand Hotel with a manager named adriverhoef. Nevertheless, I wouldn't mind an introduction to WCW.GOLFhack - or to Crystal Pellet for that matter. I have this Grand Galla Base Camp Trek to SNURK & Friends for September to think about. You, adriververhoef, unfortunately, are nailed down for life as a captain. You Dutchmen are such good crunchers. In Denmark we ought to be able to do some more and some better. < looking around in my circle of people for the twentysecond time – I love them but they are computer illiterates, they would get ticks if I mentioned WCG – eh? What’s that again? Ugh!  - besides they don’t work with computers – well, most don’t work at all – and they are not addicted the way I am for good and for bad – Facebook  perhaps – and I know a surprising to myself large bunch of people nowadays, actually - how did that happen? - but none I would even mention this to. It would be very, very foreign to them. >I'm happy for you that the new frontdeskcomputer ensures you such a fine ranking. How would you say it stacks up to the old one as a guesstimate? Oh, you will probably know the exact numbers |
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adriverhoef
Master Cruncher The Netherlands Joined: Apr 3, 2009 Post Count: 2181 Status: Recently Active Project Badges:
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Many people are touchy about being corrected or reprimanded. Me, I'm a downright bitch when it comes to that. So therefore I try to tread cautiously going in the opposite direction ... That's very kind of you to think of, but triggering something … you can't prevent that from happening since people are mostly unpredictable, especially when you don't know them, don't you think?Even if they are not your missedsteaks, I might trigger unintended bad vibrations. Yes, I can see that King's and Queen's days need a bit getting adjusted to. Did the Queen's day take priority over the King's when the Queen was the King so to speak? I'm sorry, I don't understand the question.About your health and health care in itself … in this modern society we say here: being ill is the same as working hard, very hard. That's why I totally agree with you when you say "It's a mammoth, a mastodont, and a monster that manages our life and death." I'm happy for you that the new frontdeskcomputer ensures you such a fine ranking. How would you say it stacks up to the old one as a guesstimate? Well, the old one - in its last months - was like a drunk horse after brainsurgery - not knowing when or how to stand up on four legs and once it was standing up it went through its hooves within a day - and in its last days even within a few hours or minutes.Now - the new frontdeskcomputer - it is like two horses eagerly and smoothly running together at a full gallop (Dutch: galop). No need for flogging, just a little spur (Dutch: spoor). Since we're in a language thread: 'spoor' is a Dutch word that has several - or maybe many - meanings: - spur (golden, silver), gaff - incentive - footprint - track (sound, tape) - trail, footsteps, scent, clue - trace, mark, scar, wound - trace (small amount of a substance) - railway, railroad - (narrow, standard, broad) gauge - calcar - spore |
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One-word-many-meanings installment
- most of the time the context save us Since we're in a language thread: 'spoor' is a Dutch word that has several - or maybe many - meanings: What a good idea to get us back on ’sporet’/’het spoor’?The Northern Tribe will be able to match a good deal of the meanings of ’spoor’ you list by saying ’spor’ with just a single ’o’ for nouns. We say ’spore’ for verbs. - spur (golden, silver), gaff - no match; gaff is another word altogether ’hage’ or ’krog’ - incentive would be ’ansporing’; as a verb ’anspore’ - footprint - check - track (sound, tape) - check - trail, footsteps, scent, clue - check - trace, mark, scar, wound - check - trace (small amount of a substance) – check; we have ’sporstoffer’ like selenium in vitamin pills - railway, railroad - check - (narrow, standard, broad) gauge – if necessary we if we wanted to get technical would ’smalspor-’ as in German 'Schmalspur-'. Most of the time, though, we would say 'tipper track' or even 'beet track' as they were used for: transport of materials in tippers and the track were fast to establish and break down again. Broad gauge would be matchingly ’bred sporvidde’/wide gauge as in Chemins de Fer de USSR - calcar – I never met that word before. And I cannot find a Danish word for it, and I even worked at a glassworks where it should have been used if it existed here. But a similar word ’kalkere’ and ’kalkepapir’ may relate to ’spoor’. To ’kalkere’ is tracing a picture onto a semitransparent piece of paper – parchment. You may have done so as a child. ’Kalkepapir’ is a rather expensive type of semitransparent paper which you use/used for architectural and engineer drawings and plans. The transparancy ensured you could make blueprints from them. I think it is called tracing paper in English. - spore in the meaning of botanical procrastination – check I could add: ’lane’ as in ’three-lane highway’. When I take a close look at the usage of it from a Danish perspective, it surprising how often it is used as a metaphor or figuratively. Besides, spor's pronunciation is a textbook example for demonstrating the ’stress’. Have you tried to pronounce stressed Danish words at some time during our exchanges here? When I read your list, I wondered where ’speur’ as you have used several times in 'speurneus' fits in. I took it for granted that it meant spoor. In Denmark we have ’sporhunde’ - dogs whose job it is to sniff spoor. To the best of my knowledge we have no second word for it such as ’speur’. And does speur mean to spoor? Might it be a dialect? In general this ’one-word-many-meanings’ is an interesting field. Sometimes the meaning can be expressed by a distinct, but often only miniscule difference of the pronunciation. That’s the lucky ones. Often there is no distinguishing of pronunciation at all, and that’s where you wonder how we manage to uphold a sane communication. That's very kind of you to think of, but triggering something … you can't prevent that from happening since people are mostly unpredictable, especially when you don't know them, don't you think? I agree. Therefore: Better err on the side of caution as the saying goes. Whizzing out of a philosophical vein: When do you know people? Yes, I can see that King's and Queen's days need a bit getting adjusted to. Did the Queen's day take priority over the King's when the Queen was the King so to speak? I'm sorry, I don't understand the question. My train of thought was the traditional men having more importance than women through the ages. In the particular instance of Dutch Queens, I think this thinking may be off spoor, because you have had a successful succession of Queens of which Emma impressed me quite a bit. Think of the age she lived in. Very wise woman. Sounds good with the galloping frontdeskcomputer. Isn’t that a relief? What did you do with the old one? As for the ’Heath Platform’ we have a system where all health persons can see and do everything instantly everywhere at all health facilites. Even we citizens can enter and look. All tests are listed in detail, liver, kidneys whatever. the minute the analysis is ready. Your medicines. Everything. You can see your appointments – will be able to communicate with the health persons e-mail-like (so far it’s a distant dream). We have a tendency to want it very big in little Denmark as a sort of national characteristic. We had a monster for collecting all kinds of public debt owed by people. It is scrapped, because it made the debt grow. The one we struggle with now is a system for railway signals that gives huge problems – it even brings trains to a stand still at times. We just want it bigger. It must be able to do everything and then some. As when parents buy extra large shoes for their kids in order to take the future into account. |
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adriverhoef
Master Cruncher The Netherlands Joined: Apr 3, 2009 Post Count: 2181 Status: Recently Active Project Badges:
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Since we're in a language thread: 'spoor' is a Dutch word that has several - or maybe many - meanings: What a good idea to get us back on ’sporet’/’het spoor’? - incentive would be ’ansporing’; as a verb ’anspore’ Dutch: 'aansporing', verb: 'aansporen'; see how close our languages are!Besides, spor's pronunciation is a textbook example for demonstrating the ’stress’. Ooh, yes I did. Difficult to understand what it was at first, but I got the hang of it in the end.Have you tried to pronounce stressed Danish words at some time during our exchanges here? When I read your list, I wondered where ’speur’ as you have used several times in 'speurneus' fits in. I took it for granted that it meant spoor. In Denmark we have ’sporhunde’ - dogs whose job it is to sniff spoor. To the best of my knowledge we have no second word for it such as ’speur’. And does speur mean to spoor? Might it be a dialect? No, not a dialect. The Dutch verb 'speuren' actually means 'het spoor volgen' (to follow the trace/track/trail), it is derived from 'spoor'.In general this ’one-word-many-meanings’ is an interesting field. Sometimes the meaning can be expressed by a distinct, but often only miniscule difference of the pronunciation. That’s the lucky ones. Often there is no distinguishing of pronunciation at all, and that’s where you wonder how we manage to uphold a sane communication. It's funny that you mention this. In Dutch we have two ways to write one pronunciation: 'ei' and 'ij' (funny: ezelsbrug.nl), they are pronounced the same. You just have to learn the Dutch 'ei' and 'ij' words at school. However, in the Dutch province of Zeeland 'ei' and 'ij' are pronounced differently (dialectwise). People from Zeeland just 'know' when to write 'ei' or 'ij'. Here are some Dutch words: vijf (five), moeilijk (difficult), zijlijn (sideline), mei (May), eindelijk (finally).Sounds good with the galloping frontdeskcomputer. Isn’t that a relief? What did you do with the old one? Computerwoman took care of it. It's as good as braindead. (I wrote 'it', not 'she' .)The one we struggle with now is a system for railway signals that gives huge problems – it even brings trains to a stand still at times. Ah!  Computer says no. |
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Longing installment
- it’s been a long, long time Ever so often I think of our exchanges and you, adriverhoef. You may have noticed I refer to you ever so often in my post. 'Du kommst mir nicht aus dem Sinn.' How are all those OCR pages coming along? How many pages? Percentagewise? Preempting your question as I imagine it will be: No, my Dutch classes are not going forwards as I wish at all. As you probably know, many things have changed for me; besides I’m a word and communications addict, who when tired enough – and that is more often than not – can spend an entire day playing word games with BladeD and whomever passes by. Would you believe it – it’s as if you put another vinyl record on your grammophone: Each person has his own style and technique for playing. I like all the styles. And I’m hooked. I wish we had a separate room for playing so that the ’business threads’ were not flooded at all times. Of course, being me, I also throw myself into the arms of any passers-by. It may seem foolish for people without that fetish. However, for me it’s educating, too. I have learned, that Dutch is the very foundation of English – and they – the Dutch – did settle Manhattan, too. Recently I stumbled upon ’spoor’ in a Hemingway short story we read in my English class. It’s of Dutch origin, as we discussed recently. As are so many English words. To be honest, I thought that Danish had made its mark on English more that Dutch. Well, I think they have in the building department. Halftimbering. Very strong. Making sure it would stand up - and it did. But did you ever invade England, if I may ask? Well, you did the civilized way: With words. In historic time – 2011 – I had the good luck to visit York where the Vikings had a considerable settlement. Everybody was surprised to find combs and what have you in the extensive digs, items that told the archeologists that once the Vikings had conquered the area, they went on to conquer and score the women. That’s such a cute trait. Poor Englishmen. First the Vikings and then the Americans – oversize, overpaid, and over … was it oversexed? I think so. Anyway, how are you? How is 'our' new frontdeskcomputer performing? Still satisfied with it? If you were me, what would you choose: Rotterdam by train for the architecture? Or a roadtrip to Dessau – also for the architecture – the cradle of the Bauhaus movement? Still working on my Netherlands pictures - a little each day - and I think how lucky we were in Denmark. Haarlem was meer en min spared, but Arnhem! It's hard to manage such a Trümmerstadt. You'll never get the ideal result. Still, the ideal result may be restoring some buildings, put up a number of somewhat ugly structures to get the economy going, slowing down and save up money for a transport cathedral as they did in Haarlem. Have you ever spent a day or two there? To be honest, I thought it was me waiting for a post from you, and it's quite the other way around - things are swirling. Please forgive me. |
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Container installment
- is this becoming a habit? From the news this morning - We do not know how he arrived at the ship in the middle of the Great Belt. We only know the result At the time we are looking for several containers which he with amazing force crushed as were they faulty OCR-pages and flung into the water. He yelled something that sounded like 'charcoal' and 'Texas'. Right now we are putting bandages on his hands and arms while he's having a huge cup of chamomile tea. He's calming down, and we look forward to having his side of the story.  |
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adriverhoef
Master Cruncher The Netherlands Joined: Apr 3, 2009 Post Count: 2181 Status: Recently Active Project Badges:
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Hi there, mevrouw Kleine Zeemeermin, min of meer zachtjes op het spoor van een ezelsbruggetje naar Rotterdam? Do you want to know what a Dutch wife is? Are you intrigued by the Dutch?
It's true, I haven't forgotten the fun we had with our Grand Hotel and the stories we 'played'. Next time will probably be ... a game of chess? But what a surprising move from the referee! ... no, I won't tell.  Near 700 pages to be OCR'ed of which about 219 have been OCR'ed and checked. That's 31%. There's still hundreds of pages more waiting to be scanned and there _is_ a light at the end of the tunnel.  Probably a train. The new frontdeskcomputer is performing very well.  It's been running 24/7 for over a month now, without rebooting.If you were me, what would you choose: Rotterdam by train for the architecture? Or a roadtrip to Dessau – also for the architecture – the cradle of the Bauhaus movement? Since I'm not you and you're not me, it's difficult to tell. What would you do, if you were me, when you were sitting at the table of language and you were told that there are 20 ways to pronounce the letter 'r' in Dutch? Here are just five ways:- Alveolar trill [r] (that's how I would pronounce it) (Italian, Spanish, Russian) - Alveolar approximant [ɹ] - Retroflex approximant [ɻ] (English) - Uvular trill [ʀ] - Voiced uvular fricative [ʁ] (German, French) Maybe have a listen to the radionews bulletin of 1 februari 1953? (disastrous floods in the province of Zeeland) → Deltawerken - maybe paying a visit to the site ... ("The main goal of our (non-profit) foundation is to provide reliable information about water management, flood protection and the Delta Works.") |
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