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Did the new one get too hot?
- well, to me it looks as if you gave it an Al Capone bios update laughing
Never mind as long as it works.
And it is probably moderated by Linux Elizabeth the night pot version
good luck

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49er installment
- a melody that kicks in the door to the appropiate center of your brain at first 'glance'
'Our thread' is getting a little rusty, Adri - not from bad will from either of us, I believe - so I have had a searchlight out for something to bother you with. And I found it. Upon composing my Base Camp post this morning, I stumbled upon this melody that kind of summed up my entire post.
An Old Tin Cup
I'm far behind with my Dutch lessons - not even done with the plitter-platter - but were I to learn English the same way, I would choose this song for several reasons:
1. The melody lodges in your head at first run - unusual for me
2. All the words are sung and pronounced articulately and distinctively; you understand each and every word and syllable
3. It tells a fascinating story which whips up all kinds of images of scenery, work, dreams and a broken love
4. It's good music to accompany your excercises - you can think you're horse!

How are you getting along with your 400 pages to scan and correct, the 100 more, and the even more that did come, plus what more there has come since and what is to come?

I love trekking with Base Camp in Colorado. Had you been along, we would have had more music, though. Like with the good old Grand Hotel trek. Among the lucid memories of that one is your escapades in Harlingen, adriverhoef tsk, tsk, tsk
I know you have somewhat valid excuses, but I prefer the original story laughing
When my current captain Johnny Cool of Team Andrax posted a link for a tall ships race, I couldn't help but think of that poor Maersk container you smashed.
Harlingen is one of the ports of call.
thinking Say, do you Dutchmen have a habit of putting up ferris wheels and tivolis on each and every occasion? rolling eyes


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'Our thread' is getting a little rusty, Adri - not from bad will from either of us, I believe -
Correct, little mermaid, correct. I've been busy with several things, like the continued installation of the new frontdeskcomputer and finding, picking and placing photos - if available - of 150 artists on top40.nl (photos from a site with which we have an exclusive deal).
Whilst doing that I was also flogging the old, exhausted frontdeskcomputer, trying to squeeze some last workunits through its broken brains … it needs babysitting a lot, 'cause it will most probably crash at least once each two hours with some random fault, so I better keep it turned off. I was a bit afraid that I couldn't use my scanner on the new computer anymore and had to revert to the old frontdeskcomputer to scan documents. Luckily, I found the right packages to install onto the new computer and to be able to continue scanning documents.
… so I have had a searchlight out for something to bother you with. And I found it. Upon composing my Base Camp post this morning, I stumbled upon this melody that kind of summed up my entire post.
An Old Tin Cup
I'm far behind with my Dutch lessons - not even done with the plitter-platter
At least you're admittimg that learning a new language doesn't go as smoothly as you would like. Since you say you're far behind, have you got anything scheduled? Like "I need to have this and that ready by the end of this month"?
- but were I to learn English the same way, I would choose this song for several reasons:
1. The melody lodges in your head at first run - unusual for me
2. All the words are sung and pronounced articulately and distinctively; you understand each and every word and syllable
3. It tells a fascinating story which whips up all kinds of images of scenery, work, dreams and a broken love
4. It's good music to accompany your excercises - you can think you're horse!
I wish learning other languages all went along that way, by picking songs. I remember "Wuthering Heights" (by Kate Bush) was picked in my English class. No need to link to YouTube, you know the song or you don't. devilish

How are you getting along with your 400 pages to scan and correct, the 100 more, and the even more that did come, plus what more there has come since and what is to come?
I have added another 100 scanned pages, the total is now 600, still with several hundreds more to come, and OCR'd and corrected 25% of the current total. So there is some progress. smile

I love trekking with Base Camp in Colorado. Had you been along, we would have had more music, though. Like with the good old Grand Hotel trek. Among the lucid memories of that one is your escapades in Harlingen, adriverhoef tsk, tsk, tsk
I don't remember much of it, but you do remember someone beating me to my head with a bag of charcoal, don't you, and I don't want to talk about it. Luckily you located me, 'cause I didn't know where I was and I just needed to return to the Grand Hotel. My safe haven.
I know you have somewhat valid excuses, but I prefer the original story laughing
Uh, it depends, as for me. What do you consider the original story?

And how do look at your WCG trek to Hungary now, where no one spoke a word to you?
Say, do you Dutchmen have a habit of putting up ferris wheels and tivolis on each and every occasion? rolling eyes
Yes, we have a lot of 'kermis' events (you would call them 'fairs' in English) each year. Here is the calendar for upcoming kermis events for this year in our little country, that's just as big (or small) as the American state of Maryland. (Well, actually, Maryland is 23% smaller than the Netherlands.)

Almost forgetting your searchlight … What do you think of "Domino" by Clouseau? It has a repeating melody, not that hard to hear and understand if you read the words along with the song, a short story of a lover lost, and the first comment under the video on YouTube says it's Clouseau's best song (so it's good music) so you can let it stick in your head if you're a horse confused ).

't Is niet zo lang geleden
It is not that long ago
Maar 't lijkt een ver verleden
But it seems a distant past
Ze heette Domino
Her name was Domino (or: She was called Domino)
Of ze noemde zich zo
Or she called herself that way

En zij had in haar ogen
And she had in her eyes
Het blauw van regenbogen
The blue of rainbows
Ze hield niet van Clouseau
She did not like Clouseau
Wel van Mozart en zo
She did like Mozart and all that

En bij het ochtendgloren
And at the dawning of the morning
Was ik allang verloren
I was long since lost
Het was echt goed raak
It really hit the spot
Ik heb een vreemde smaak
I have a strange taste

Ze is niet lang gebleven
She has not stayed long
Heeft geen adres gegeven
Has not given an address
Ze heette Domino
Her name was Domino
Domino of zo
Domino or something

Ze hield van verre landen
She loved distant countries
Van godverlaten stranden
Liked god-left beaches
Van wachten op Godot
Liked waiting for Godot
Zij had cultuur en zo
She knew culture and everything

Er was iets in haar haren
There was something in her hair
't Is moeilijk te verklaren
It is difficult to explain
Het leek wel maneschijn
It looked like moonshine
Moet mijn verbeelding zijn
Must be my imagination

Dan zei ze, ik vergeet je
Then she said, I forget about you
Ze lachte zelfs een beetje
She even laughed a bit
Je komt er wel doorheen
You will get through it
Jij redt het wel alleen
You'll manage it on your own

't Was hard om te verduren
It was hard to endure
Maar ik ging door heter vuren
But I went through hotter fires
Ze heette Domino
Her name was Domino
Domino of zo
Domino or something

En zij had in haar ogen
And she had in her eyes
Het blauw van regenbogen
The blue of rainbows
Ze hield niet van Clouseau
She did not like Clouseau
Wel van Mozart en zo
Liked Mozart and all that

Er was iets in haar haren
There was something in her hair
't Is moeilijk te verklaren
It is difficult to explain
Leek wel maneschijn
Looked like moonshine
Moet mijn verbeelding zijn
Must be my imagination

Ze zeggen dat ik taai ben
They say that I'm tough
Dat ik een echte haai ben
That I am a real shark
Het lijkt alleen maar zo
It just looks like that
Vraag maar aan Domino
Just ask Domino

Ik heb in heel m'n leven
I have in my whole life
Om niemand veel gegeven
Cared much about nobody (=haven't cared much about anybody)
Maar wel om Domino
But I did about Domino
Domino of zo
Domino or something
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Summary installment
- in order to keep this alive
Thank you for taking time out to update me/us on what occupies you for the time being. It’s not only those really many OCR pages and more to come, but photos, too. Would it be possible for you to show us a sample of a finished page inclusive of the photo you chose when you have one ready?
Whilst doing that I was also flogging the old, exhausted frontdeskcomputer,
Funny, how we’re not ready to give up such a piece of machinery. Are you attached to it? The ’attach’ thing is the reason I don’t make Christmas decorations – spruce, decorative dried things from nature, candles like this:
I found I get so attached to them that I cannot throw them out. I felt a bit of the same when I had to take my old PC to the dump a few years back. Adults should be beyond that.

I’m glad you got the new frontdeskcomputer to work. It would have been disastrous if it would not have cooperated with the scanner with all those OCR pages waiting. And you’re even IT-savvy! There are always a lot of surprises and unforeseeable issues when changing equipment, isn’t there? You work around it and try so many possibilities that you almost forget what you did when all of a sudden miraculously it works. And you’re ready to forget all your worries for sheer joy and relief. I had to buy a replacement printer, and I couldn’t get it to work, because of a lack of a driver. I had a DVD for the old one – you remember things came with installationdiscs eons ago? – and for some reason I stuffed that in, and vupti! the new printer was happily installing itself.
Since you say you're far behind, have you got anything scheduled? Like "I need to have this and that ready by the end of this month"?
Yes, I have my Google calendar to run my life. In detail. For routine matters. I have projects too, but they are on hold. To be honest: For the time being it’s as if I don’t own myself any more. What I worked hard to piece together seems to have cracked and pulverized mainly on the health level. To try to sort out what are preexisting challenges and what are new ones is a job for a speurneus, and I find it too important to leave entirely to health personel now. I need and like to have my own handle on it. I could employ a full time secretary to take care of all the appointments here, there, and somewhere else – and don’t laugh here: In addition to my Master, my Google Calendar, I have two more with different visual impacts. I have a thing with chronology and fear to forget something. Anything. The good news is that my mood has survived so far. It dipped once but bopped up anew. That’s always my big fear: To lose my desire for life.

Well, this shall pass, too, and when I have identified and eliminated what makes me so tired I hardly have the energy to breathe, I’ll say: By next month I’ll know plitter-platter by heart. And will be able to sing it too. And I’ll go on to ’Kilometervreter’. And I’ll plan that architectural trip to Rotterdam and one to Dessau (Bauhaus) and Kentucky, too. And thank you for ’Domino’ – it fits right in languagelessonwise with the other lessons you have given me and which I have in store.

I didn’t know ’Wuthering Heights’ and I wouldn’t pick that over ’An Old Tin Cup’. Never.

600 pages current total with several hundreds more to come! Mamma mia! But 25% is a considerable step forward. I hope you will be able to keep the coming at bay by doing the existing so fast that the gap doesn’t widen. How about your ordinary duties? Are they on hold while the OCRing runs?

The original Harlingen story is the one where you were able to smash an otherwise sturdy, strong and well constructed light blue Maersk Line 44 feet container beyond recognition. You referred to some newspaper articles and a violent storm wiping that container off its ship, all very plausible, but … I prefer the original. You should, too. It’s proof of your superhuman strength and biceps.
And how do look at your WCG trek to Hungary now, where no one spoke a word to you?
With mixed feelings. It was humiliating and embarrassing, but it showed a nation standing shoulder to shoulder determined not to give in. It was sad to be interrupted by being turned into a heart patient, but the crew took over in a most talented way. It was also envigorating reliving my days in Budapest. But I have met so many people (read: men) in my life who don’t talk, so it’s kind of the norm for me. I’m swept away by all who do talk – but you already know that.

We have an institution in Denmark called Dansk Arkitektur Center – The Danish Centre for Architecture. The have lived in this pretty old warehouse

but very soon they’ll move into a new building designed by OMA with Rem Koolhaas and Ellen Van Loon spearheading the project right at the waterfront at Copenhagen Harbor.


I hear that Ruud Lubbers died a few days ago. Does that mean anything to the ordinary Dutchman?
As you may know we have procedures and ceremonies going on for Queen Margrethe II's husband Prince Henrik going on these days.
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Thank you for taking time out to update me/us on what occupies you for the time being. It’s not only those really many OCR pages and more to come, but photos, too. Would it be possible for you to show us a sample of a finished page inclusive of the photo you chose when you have one ready?
The photos were a totally separate project. I got it finished within a week. Nevertheless, my part of the job was to supply pictures, if available, for a selected set of artists and put them on the website. 'My' range was in the names of artists that begin with 0-9 plus about the first half of the A. If you open http://top40.nl you will see on the top line: Hitlijsten — Actueel — Artiesten — Songteksten — Mijn Top 40 — Contact
When you KLiK 'Artiesten' you will see a range '# A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z'. Each of these is the first letter of an artist's name. When you KLiK the 'A' all artist names that begin with an 'A' will pop up. You will see A Balladeer, A Flock Of Seagulls, A Great Big World, A Lighter Shade Of Brown, A R I Z O N A, A R Rahman, A Silent Express, A Studio, A Taste Of Honey etc. I could only find pictures for a few of these names, like A Balladeer, A R Rahman, A Silent Express, A Taste Of Honey, while A Flock Of Seagulls had already been taken care of. So if you KLiK e.g. A Taste Of Honey you will see the picture that I've chosen and uploaded. In this way I've added pictures for e.g. 10cc, ABBA, Alice Cooper, Alphabeat (that Danish group) and Amy Winehouse.

Whilst doing that I was also flogging the old, exhausted frontdeskcomputer,
Funny, how we’re not ready to give up such a piece of machinery. Are you attached to it?
No, it's broken, its brains are faulty, crashing every so often in an unpredictable way. It's just a piece of machinery that I would hardly be using anymore. Although, my first computer (from ± 1990) … I still have it. And my first modem, I think I still hold on to that, too.
Thank you for taking time out to update me/us on what occupies you for the time being. It’s not only those really many OCR pages and more to come, but photos, too. Would it be possible for you to show us a sample of a finished page inclusive of the photo you chose when you have one ready?
The photos were a totally separate project. I got it finished within a week. Nevertheless, my part of the job was to supply pictures, if available, for a selected set of artists and put them on the website. 'My' range was in the names of artists that begin with 0-9 plus about the first half of the A. If you open http://top40.nl you will see on the top line: Hitlijsten — Actueel — Artiesten — Songteksten — Mijn Top 40 — Contact
When you KLiK 'Artiesten' you will see a range '# A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z'. Each of these is the first letter of an artist's name. When you KLiK the 'A' all artist names that begin with an 'A' will pop up. You will see A Balladeer, A Flock Of Seagulls, A Great Big World, A Lighter Shade Of Brown, A R I Z O N A, A R Rahman, A Silent Express, A Studio, A Taste Of Honey etc. I could only find pictures for a few of these names, like A Balladeer, A R Rahman, A Silent Express, A Taste Of Honey, while A Flock Of Seagulls had already been taken care of. So if you KLiK e.g. A Taste Of Honey you will see the picture that I've chosen and uploaded. In this way I've added pictures for e.g. 10cc, ABBA, Alice Cooper, Alphabeat (that Danish group) and Amy Winehouse.

Whilst doing that I was also flogging the old, exhausted frontdeskcomputer,
Funny, how we’re not ready to give up such a piece of machinery. Are you attached to it?
No, it's broken, its brains are faulty, crashing every so often in an unpredictable way. It's just a piece of machinery that I would hardly be using anymore. Although, my first computer (from ± 1990) … I still have it. And my first modem, I think I still hold on to that, too.

I’m glad you got the new frontdeskcomputer to work. It would have been disastrous if it would not have cooperated with the scanner with all those OCR pages waiting. And you’re even IT-savvy!
Yeah, I had to try and install a few extra packages to get it to work. Eventually, 'dnf install libsane-hpaio' did the job. I've already scanned over 100 images from my 7" singles collection since I got the scanner connected to the new frontdeskcomputer. tongue
There are always a lot of surprises and unforeseeable issues when changing equipment, isn’t there? You work around it and try so many possibilities that you almost forget what you did when all of a sudden miraculously it works.
Sometimes it's hard, other times it's relatively easy. I found it relatively easy this time and I have been writing down every important thing that I changed/installed. Like how to get BOINC to work. wink

By next month I’ll know plitter-platter by heart. And will be able to sing it too. And I’ll go on to ’Kilometervreter’. And I’ll plan that architectural trip to Rotterdam and one to Dessau (Bauhaus) and Kentucky, too. And thank you for ’Domino’ – it fits right in languagelessonwise with the other lessons you have given me and which I have in store.
Thank you and good luck to you learning the songs!

600 pages current total with several hundreds more to come! Mamma mia! But 25% is a considerable step forward. I hope you will be able to keep the coming at bay by doing the existing so fast that the gap doesn’t widen. How about your ordinary duties? Are they on hold while the OCRing runs?
Yes, it's one thing or the other. The OCR job is a very long running project, it will keep me busy for many months to come. shock

I hear that Ruud Lubbers died a few days ago. Does that mean anything to the ordinary Dutchman?
All older people will know his name. He was a former Dutch prime minister for the longest period of time, leading the Netherlands from 1982 to 1994, born one year later than our former queen Beatrix (she will turn 80 by the end of this month).

I'm min of meer following your reports on prince Henrik here in the forum, mevrouw Kleine Zeemeermin!

EDIT: added a link for Ruud Lubbers
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Windmill installment
- a quickie for the expert
I ask you, adriverhoef, as the son of a miller and a citizen of the land of windmills:
Have you ever heard of a custom like this in the Netherlands?
- I'll be back (you never heard that before, did you?) smile

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Windmill installment
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I ask you, adriverhoef, as the son of a miller and a citizen of the land of windmills:
Have you ever heard of a custom like this in the Netherlands?
Yes, I've heard of it. Customs are different though throughout our country (and therefore confusing). Read more here (at the Dutch version of Wikipedia) or here specifically (also in Dutch). This last page translates as:

Mills can pass messages. In the past, people did not have a telephone or internet. The miller could still pass on messages by attaching the sails of the mill in a certain way. There are different types of sailarmstands that are explained below. Even today the miller knows these wingpositions and they are still used. To view the wingposition, you must stand in front of the windmillblades, with your face facing the blades. Millblades rotate counterclockwise.

1. State of joy
If something very nice has happened then the miller puts the sailarms of the mill in the joy state. This is applied when someone is getting married or when a child is born. The lowest sailarm is then fastened to the left in front of the middle. You should have a look at it when you see a windmill standing still.

2. Mourning
If someone has died, the miller puts the wings in the mourning position, so everyone knows that something bad has happened.
If you stand in front of the vanes, the lowest wing is attached to the right of the middle of the mill.

3. Short rest position
If the windmill is stationary for a short time, it is called short rest. In this way people from the area know that the mill is not working for a while. The wings in this position are completely straight in front of the body of the windmill as a plus sign.

4. Long rest position
If the mill is broken and needs to be repaired, it cannot work for a while. The miller then puts the blades of the mill in long rest. In this way people from the area know that the mill does not work for a longer period of time. The sails of the mill stand in a cross (X) during long rest.

(6?) 5. Party mode
At special parties such as National Mills Day the mill is decorated. The miller does this by hanging flags on the windmill. In some places in the Netherlands, windmills are decorated by stretching flag lines between the wings.

Language of the mills in the south-east part of the Netherlands:
Wingpositions differ in the Netherlands. In the south-east of the Netherlands the wingpositions are exactly the other way around in the rest of the Netherlands when it comes to the mourning situation and the joy mode.

Wikipedia also notes that in WW II mills were used as secret semaphore. By placing the blades in a certain position, the neighbourhood was warned of a German invasion.

EDIT: I think that translating the Dutch wiek into the English wick isn't right here. Therefore I changed 'wick' into 'wing'.
EDIT: fixed some more translation hiccups from Google Translate.
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Very interesting, Adri.
Thank you.
To be studied closely tonight

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Thank you installment
- such a great answer to such a vraagtje
Thank you very, very much, Adri, for taking the trouble – and time – to make this informative post. What a world you open here!
I asked a modest question, and up comes an entire language spoken by windmills, a language (or rather several as you have 'dialects') which is as beautiful as I am on my way to think your spoken language is.

Did you know yourself that you had this practice? And that you had a mill language so well developed?
Did your father ever use it as far as you know?
Especially the ’party mode’ is neat tongue and he might have used the vreugdestand when you were born.

I have tried to find something similar about Danish mills, but without luck except for this rather contradictory statement:
Mills in a mourning position is an old tradition which was used in particular during the heyday of the mills before the industrial revolution to honor diseased persons from the local areal.
Earlier it was the concensus that mill wings should not rest in a cross. It was looked upon as an abuse of the holy sign of the cross.


I can understand if you have developed this language for two reasons:
1. You have a lot of windmills
2. Your country is so very flat for the most part that windmills must have been focus points from a distance.

We ought to have done the same in Denmark because we also have/had a lot of windmills, but we didn’t as far as I know and can find out. Was it because Denmark - albeit far from being mountainous - is hilly compared to the Netherlands and bonfires on top of the hills sent signals, especially of danger?
You know we are this northern tribe; we use smoke signals blushing

Also enjoyable are the many pictures of windmills in the link you stated
here at the bottom of the website

Once again, thank you hugs


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The photos were a totally separate project. I got it finished within a week …….
It’s such a pleasure to see your elegant work. Do all the pictures come in nice squares or do you have to crop them/resize them? They don’t look cropped. Could it be that they are CD-covers which are born square?

It an amazing ’kingdom’ you have there. Even as you probably stand on the shoulders so to speak of the work you have done from the very beginning - and of course this being your life and your passion, which helps - I imagine you also have it all in your head and on your fingertips – much like my three calendars ….
Whilst doing that I was also flogging[ …. the old, exhausted frontdeskcomputer
Are you attached to it?
No, it's broken, its brains are faulty, crashing every so often in an unpredictable way. It's just a piece of machinery that I would hardly be using anymore. Although, my first computer (from ± 1990) … I still have it. And my first modem, I think I still hold on to that, too.
There you go biggrin
You keep the antiques … I have a few as well. Not the modem, but I still remember that deeee, dididididi – and the thrill that went with it. Would it work? I for one never really trusted it. You also felt the money pouring out as it was metered by time connected. I remember having such a bad conscience because I couldn't get my eyes off some webcam (that was pretty advanced for the time) filming Vesuvio erupting ...

Your catalogue of you own collection is so neat, too. I stumbled over Papa Bue’s Viking Jazz Band
– so funny. You don’t want me to supply a small correction, do you? ’Sblvstænk I Dit Gyldne Hår’ should be ’Sølvstænk …’ (Stains of Silver in Your Golden Hair).
I like their style – for one or two numbers at a time, max three devilish
[I found it relatively easy this time and I have been writing down every important thing that I changed/installed. Like how to get BOINC to work.
Way to go. I used to do that to years and years back when I reformatted my hard disc regularly – believe it or not. I had to put in the software in the right order, otherwise one program would hijack everything.

Beatrix gave up the throne in favor of her son, didn’t she? You have a great tradition of female monarchs. Wilhelmina, Juliane, and Beatrix. You have been far ahead of any women's rights movements. Very applaudable.
Only when it was obvious that our present Queen Margrethe II wouldn’t get any brothers, did they change the constitution (in 1953) so that women could become heads of state. However, it’s still a macho legislation.
Male inheritance supercedes female – so if there is a little brother, he’ll take it all.

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