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Former Member
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here here to dave. toasting to a well stated fact of life as known from the beginning of time. Not to take the mickey, txyankee, I fall for the same homophones too frequently, English not being my native tongue, but on the back benches they often say "Hear Hear", not ''here here''. The point of the parochial story is, UK weather does not rule global weather, nor is it ever an indication of the climate and where it's going. Sorry for the English elderly suffering English policies, but then they've been suffering UK policies, no matter what government. --//-- |
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Former Member
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sek is so funny
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Former Member
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David, move to the USA and start harvesting kudzu and turn it into biofuel. Your opportunity to do and turn something around rather then speculating about conspiracies that are always out to get you.
Food for thought [but not to all] --//-- |
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Former Member
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sek is so funny One has to be in the face of the funpack, but you still can see it as funny. Different ways to see humor, txyankee, the English do having that term "Humour Me" (in English spelling), they also invented "Stiff Upper Lip". --//-- |
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Former Member
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Sek you are a funny old soul It's cold in the UK today because it's cold in the UK today and generally our climate is colder than average across the globe. That's why we use more energy that's the point not "We are are entering a Global Ice Age because it's cold today in the middle of July in the UK" read it again That's not what I said You like to have it both ways On the one hand you believing in "Survival of the Fittest" would tell me that the Dolphin with it's focused ultrasound generating melon and offset teeth for underwater echo-location, it's hydrodynamic shape, insulating blubber, dorsal and pectoral fins and powerful fluke tail, unusual sleeping skills, ability to swim to depths of 600 m ability to hold their breath for up to 30 minutes, nostrils located in the top of their head and a fondness for squid....is descended from a dog sized land walking mammal - something I have great difficulty in accepting to be the case...because clearly I am stupid. and yet on the other hand You are amazed that kudzu a highly effective plant species is not constrained by country border, topology or latitude and the reason given as to why this is the case is down to the fact that the atmosphere now contains 0.0393% CO2 likewise You claim that Homo Sapiens is the scourge of the Planet and that to support us all would take 3 1/2 Earths and we only have one of them. 1 Billion being the only sustainable option. and yet on the other hand You point out there is a Human disaster occurring in the Horn of Africa, which despite evidence to the contrary that this isn't unusual for this area of the World, the reason why people are dying there today is because of the 0.0393% CO2 in the atmosphere and I selfishly had a bath this morning. -- We should harvest the highly effective Kudzu and use it as fuel in combined heat and power plants. Amazingly renewable. There is enough food to feed us all... given the will. We are not over populated. Just switch off the biofuel production and feed hungry mouths instead Dave I said, you said, got links to the posts where I said the bolded? The context of that post was, that if all lived like the average USA citizen [Westerner, but USA citizens particularly], we'd be needing 3.5 planets, then 7 billion would on my calculator work to be 2 billion at that living [standard], not 1 billion... that latter number is those who live in a state as living in mall-nourishment today and rising again... no 3 meals a day. Lower the living standards to a sustainable level. Nothing nefarious your trying to paint, it being a long path to get there, but we have to start NOW!, before food and water wars break out... in your backyard too! Food for Thought, [But not for All] [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Jul 17, 2011 1:16:18 PM] |
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GeraldRube
Master Cruncher United States Joined: Nov 20, 2004 Post Count: 2153 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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UN Climate Body Struggling to Pinpoint Rising Sea Levels http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,774706,00.html
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Former Member
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UN Climate Body Struggling to Pinpoint Rising Sea Levels http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,774706,00.html It may come as a surprise, but by melting large quantities of ice on land, apart from it physically adding to liquid water volume which is going somewhere, it also has a gravitational effect. Yes trillions and trillions of tonnes on Antarctica has it's attraction, sideways, really! When that wanes, some of the SL will be moving somewhere else, sneaking up. Then when a storm comes plunging in onto East/West/South coast of the USA [or any other part on the planet, that 1 foot, 2 feet, 3 feet, 5.5 feet now in the high rise scenario, brings a mass with it, rolling up the shorter beaches and estuaries and other low lands. Food for thought, but not for all! --//-- |
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retsof
Former Community Advisor USA Joined: Jul 31, 2005 Post Count: 6824 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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30 year "normal" temperatures moved up 10 years ... U.S. warmer by 0.5 degrees F and every state is warmer.
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Former Member
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A world of coincidences [group-think conspiring, some would happily inject as paint job], was doing the global temp charts in a new box plot format with error bars, to visualize the decadal change and NOAA was the last, with a small refinement for those who still use the Fahrenheit measure, right Y axis.
NOAA/NCDC (National Climate Data Center) ![]() Does look like 18 months of the new decade, from 2010, have taken off! Food for thought [but not to all] --//-- PS, more of these in a little... waiting on Hadley-CRU to do their thing (without that most warming segment of our planet, the polar regions). |
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David Autumns
Ace Cruncher UK Joined: Nov 16, 2004 Post Count: 11062 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Ok here we go again
---------------------------------------- https://calderup.wordpress.com/2011/07/17/%E2...y-what-it-means%E2%80%9D/ Anyone familiar with what was taught in science lessons when I was a kid will recognise this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_chamber Dry Ice, Alcohol, A means to reduce atmospheric pressure and a radiation source. Awesome being able to see the condensation trails created by the passage of the ionising radiation It was self evident what the results of the same experimental conditions with water vapour close to saturation and cosmic rays was going to be in the careful hands of CERN but hey let's not upset the apple cart ......it's the 0.0393% of the atmosphere that is CO2 that completely controls the Global Climate no other variable can account for the warming seen during the 20th Century absolutely and definitely ![]() ![]() |
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