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David Autumns
Ace Cruncher UK Joined: Nov 16, 2004 Post Count: 11062 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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You are really keen with the doommongering Sek
----------------------------------------You appear almost pleased Feel free to enjoy your depressing outlook You are right 2010 was an El Nino year Let's see come the middle of September http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/meant80n.uk.php ![]() [Edit 1 times, last edit by David Autumns at Jul 11, 2011 4:03:15 PM] |
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Former Member
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Was 2010 an El Nino year? Hmmm let's visit the SOI chart:
---------------------------------------- http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/soi2.shtml http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/06/100624141820.htm Golly... maybe 1/3rd Nina - 2/3rd Nino..., but the revelation you made here is that La Nina makes no difference... the world keeps warming not withstanding, and melting too... unequivocally. One has to ask though where all that heat is coming from... the Urban Heat islands, rather those who dwell there? Atmospheric temperature memory, yes it exists, lasts 2 months, so something must have kept driving it... GHG's maybe, the main forcing known as Carbon Dioxide? --//-- Edit: PS, yes... there's El Nino maybe on it's way now. Currently no one is 100% sure which way it will swing and if more cold water gets sucked up from the ocean depths, whilst the hot water is vacuumed down... more OHC (You surely know the term). The 1998 El Nino was exceptional, but nothing of such extreme since, that explains a record 2010 global temp anomaly and a continued trending up... 0.14C per decade per Dr. Roy Spencer. Weather being Weather that of course is not linear... up, flat, down a bit, more up, flat, down a bit, flat, down a bit, up more, flat etc just as it evident in this chart based on UAH+RSS data, also posted some days ago: ![]() [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Jul 11, 2011 4:30:04 PM] |
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Former Member
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You are really keen with the doommongering Sek You appear almost pleased Feel free to enjoy your depressing outlook You are right 2010 was an El Nino year Let's see come the middle of September http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/meant80n.uk.php So when exactly are you prepared to do the reality check? That DMI chart just shows polar temps above 80 North, and but for the melt season [gee how often do we have to repeat that, during melt, temps can't rise much above zero], the red line shows substantial anomaly [ABOVE] the normal for the freezing period... which is why the thickness has been reducing. Is that not that what has been carried here time and again, that thinning of First Year Ice? It's survival of the fittest and even the canary is evolving PS, a number of climate scientists, those you don't want to listen to, have build their cave [retreats] already. It seems that those who're selling the "Smoking is Save" stories have been doing the same, just in case. Wanna stand up for them? |
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David Autumns
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Oh no here we go again
----------------------------------------http://www.sacbee.com/2011/07/12/3763886/al-gore-announces-new-campaign.html 24 Hours of Reality ! Maybe looking out the window should be enough to know that there isn't a Climate Crisis ![]() |
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Former Member
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Maybe looking out the window should be enough to know that there isn't a Climate Crisis Many millions in Eastern Africa this moment would not agree with you and are at risk of immediate starvation. Multiple consecutive seasons no rain. Their climate is the pits. --//-- |
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David Autumns
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This is true Sek
----------------------------------------But the thing is it has always been like that and unfortunate as it seems the climate there is absolutely normal I seem to remember Sir Bob back in 1986 swearing at us to give him our money Then there was 1972-73 1958 1888-1892 1567-1570 1535 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famines_in_Ethiopia Unfortunately normal ![]() ![]() [Edit 1 times, last edit by David Autumns at Jul 12, 2011 5:04:01 PM] |
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mfbabb2
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Note to trigger further controversy:
----------------------------------------The average human being generates 17.6 BTU of heat per hour and there are about 7 billion generators going 24/7/365! (Of course, as outliers you have Politicians which generate orders of magnitude more "hot air". )
Murphy
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David Autumns
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Maybe Hansen's GISS has missed this
----------------------------------------http://english.aljazeera.net/weather/2011/07/20117128508474428.html (for those who haven't kept up with this thread from the beginning of the now deleted "To the greenies" thread http://chiefio.wordpress.com/2010/01/08/ghcn-...tions-the-bolivia-effect/ ) ![]() |
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David Autumns
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there are just 14 of us per sq km
----------------------------------------Even at 98.6 °F we don't change the Climate Nice thinking though ![]() ![]() |
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mfbabb2
Senior Cruncher USA Joined: Feb 18, 2011 Post Count: 361 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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BTW - We should be going into another Ice Age cycle anytime now. Maybe the "global warming" will help mitigate that (or vice versa).
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Murphy
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