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Re: Not sure how much longer they will be able to keep crunching in the UK

You are really keen with the doommongering Sek

You appear almost pleased

Feel free to enjoy your depressing outlook

You are right 2010 was an El Nino year

Let's see come the middle of September

http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/meant80n.uk.php
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Re: Not sure how much longer they will be able to keep crunching in the UK

Was 2010 an El Nino year? Hmmm let's visit the SOI chart:



http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/soi2.shtml

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/06/100624141820.htm

Golly... maybe 1/3rd Nina - 2/3rd Nino..., but the revelation you made here is that La Nina makes no difference... the world keeps warming not withstanding, and melting too... unequivocally. One has to ask though where all that heat is coming from... the Urban Heat islands, rather those who dwell there? Atmospheric temperature memory, yes it exists, lasts 2 months, so something must have kept driving it... GHG's maybe, the main forcing known as Carbon Dioxide?

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Edit: PS, yes... there's El Nino maybe on it's way now. Currently no one is 100% sure which way it will swing and if more cold water gets sucked up from the ocean depths, whilst the hot water is vacuumed down... more OHC (You surely know the term). The 1998 El Nino was exceptional, but nothing of such extreme since, that explains a record 2010 global temp anomaly and a continued trending up... 0.14C per decade per Dr. Roy Spencer. Weather being Weather that of course is not linear... up, flat, down a bit, more up, flat, down a bit, flat, down a bit, up more, flat etc just as it evident in this chart based on UAH+RSS data, also posted some days ago:


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Re: Not sure how much longer they will be able to keep crunching in the UK

You are really keen with the doommongering Sek

You appear almost pleased

Feel free to enjoy your depressing outlook

You are right 2010 was an El Nino year

Let's see come the middle of September

http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/meant80n.uk.php

So when exactly are you prepared to do the reality check? That DMI chart just shows polar temps above 80 North, and but for the melt season [gee how often do we have to repeat that, during melt, temps can't rise much above zero], the red line shows substantial anomaly [ABOVE] the normal for the freezing period... which is why the thickness has been reducing. Is that not that what has been carried here time and again, that thinning of First Year Ice? It's survival of the fittest and even the canary is evolving



PS, a number of climate scientists, those you don't want to listen to, have build their cave [retreats] already. It seems that those who're selling the "Smoking is Save" stories have been doing the same, just in case. Wanna stand up for them?
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Oh no here we go again

http://www.sacbee.com/2011/07/12/3763886/al-gore-announces-new-campaign.html

24 Hours of Reality !

Maybe looking out the window should be enough to know that there isn't a Climate Crisis
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Re: Not sure how much longer they will be able to keep crunching in the UK

Maybe looking out the window should be enough to know that there isn't a Climate Crisis

Many millions in Eastern Africa this moment would not agree with you and are at risk of immediate starvation. Multiple consecutive seasons no rain. Their climate is the pits.

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Re: Not sure how much longer they will be able to keep crunching in the UK

This is true Sek

But the thing is it has always been like that and unfortunate as it seems the climate there is absolutely normal

I seem to remember Sir Bob back in 1986 swearing at us to give him our money

Then there was 1972-73

1958

1888-1892

1567-1570

1535

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famines_in_Ethiopia

Unfortunately normal sad
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Note to trigger further controversy:
The average human being generates 17.6 BTU of heat per hour and there are about 7 billion generators going 24/7/365!
(Of course, as outliers you have Politicians which generate orders of magnitude more "hot air". )
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Maybe Hansen's GISS has missed this

http://english.aljazeera.net/weather/2011/07/20117128508474428.html


(for those who haven't kept up with this thread from the beginning of the now deleted "To the greenies" thread http://chiefio.wordpress.com/2010/01/08/ghcn-...tions-the-bolivia-effect/ )
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there are just 14 of us per sq km

Even at 98.6 °F we don't change the Climate

Nice thinking though wink
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BTW - We should be going into another Ice Age cycle anytime now. Maybe the "global warming" will help mitigate that (or vice versa). tongue
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