http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=51289&src=eoa-iotd

I connected the dots a long long time ago Sek

You should follow those dots they go right to the top

The top does what the bottom wants and if the top warns, it's inconvenient truths, so the present top gets elected out, replaced with a new top, that gets voted out because they too will tell of inconvenient truths [and certain lobbies latch on]... see the pattern?

Meantime, one of these feeders of ''it aint true'', one that subscribes to the "fossil fuel is good" got bowled too... Bob Carter Does his Business

Food for thought [But not to all]

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PS, Cooler in the UK... Global Cooling : Beyond Parochialism.

Sek you are a funny old soul


It's cold in the UK today because it's cold in the UK today and generally our climate is colder than average across the globe. That's why we use more energy

that's the point

not "We are are entering a Global Ice Age because it's cold today in the middle of July in the UK"

read it again

That's not what I said


You like to have it both ways

On the one hand you believing in "Survival of the Fittest" would tell me that the Dolphin with it's focused ultrasound generating melon and offset teeth for underwater echo-location, it's hydrodynamic shape, insulating blubber, dorsal and pectoral fins and powerful fluke tail, unusual sleeping skills, ability to swim to depths of 600 m ability to hold their breath for up to 30 minutes, nostrils located in the top of their head and a fondness for squid....is descended from a dog sized land walking mammal - something I have great difficulty in accepting to be the case...because clearly I am stupid.

and yet on the other hand

You are amazed that kudzu a highly effective plant species is not constrained by country border, topology or latitude and the reason given as to why this is the case is down to the fact that the atmosphere now contains 0.0393% CO2

likewise

You claim that Homo Sapiens is the scourge of the Planet and that to support us all would take 3 1/2 Earths and we only have one of them. 1 Billion being the only sustainable option.

and yet on the other hand

You point out there is a Human disaster occurring in the Horn of Africa, which despite evidence to the contrary that this isn't unusual for this area of the World, the reason why people are dying there today is because of the 0.0393% CO2 in the atmosphere and I selfishly had a bath this morning.

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We should harvest the highly effective Kudzu and use it as fuel in combined heat and power plants. Amazingly renewable.

There is enough food to feed us all... given the will. We are not over populated. Just switch off the biofuel production and feed hungry mouths instead


Dave

This post has sat here [since 12:30 PM CET] for a little, to intersperse the parochial flow [like the word] of the ''oh, life is so bad in the UK''... Well studies have shown that of the Western / Developed countries, morale and future expectation is the lowest where the English dwell... ask the younger generation what their parents have been brewing! Another English disease maybe, surely fed by the miserable *local* weather that always appears to rule! Some have miserable days... some in the genes, who knows, the design you say has messages that not always arrive.

So is more CO2 good for plants? We read about the worldwide frog and lizard decimation [broader, amphibians] due fungi and what we've known for 121 years at least as an atmospheric function of capturing heat and re-radiating it back to earth, has a nasty effect on plants and the sub soil environment: Microbe Feedback Contributes To Global Warming

CO2 in the air does it's business at many bandwidths that never saturate... mainly at 15um long wave band. It's like that furnace in the living room... long as you keep feeding gas or coal or electricity it it will give off heat. In the atmosphere, the more CO2, the bigger that furnace becomes... and that one never stops due the solar incoming at 1365.5-1366.5 Watts / M^2 Top of atmosphere.

More for the dotted line and more Food for thought [but not to all]

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P.S. There's cloud studies too and the microbes that live in there... yes really, but what did you expect?

PPS: SORCE has been disfunctional since June 2 and Channel 4 of Roy Spencer's favored Aqua sat [to read near ground level temps] has been too [since 2008], but there's PMOD, VIRGO, ACRIM III, TIM and more that detect TSI too... all tell us the same... the sun sticks to that small band of variation, shown in the chart below, with very few momentary excursions, up or down.



Can you see the 1 Standard Deviation band for PMOD, David? 1.2 Watts per square meter variation on average... on 1366 Mean!

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