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Let's just hope that http://www.cce-review.org/index.php doesn't give Tom the chance of a second coat

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I see Sek so scientific norms now mean allowing for the inclusion of various fiddle factors until you get the result you are looking for

Which is the opposite of your norm, to exclude anything that does not match your wishful thinking.


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which is now a perfectly normal tropical storm working it's way into Mexico. It's strange all the way through the worst Winter for over 30 years and it's not climate it's weather. First Hurricane of the Season and all of a sudden it's "Global Warming" biggrin

Joe Bastardy on tv today said these storms dissipate the heat into the atmosphere--Mother Nature at work--

Joe Bastardy has it upside down. Hurricanes suck up cold water from the deep ocean, helping to cool the air again, that's where most planetary heat is stored... in the oceans, but that's when the hurricane has passed.

edit: plural

Bolshevik--The hurricanes form over warm water and dissipate the heat into the atmosphere

Whatever the by me emphsized qualifier was meant to convey [another pass at trying to develop an ad-hom?], very clearly you need tonnes more of

Good Night, and Good Luck.

PS: Would Alex also suck up some BP oil to dump that with the near guaranteed following rain on the bordering farm land? Understand the consequences of our actions and inactions!
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Dave i saw a report that 70 percent of Oncologists would NOT use chemo. Its poison
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Hi Gerald

and it is supposed to be a targeted poison! If it's aim could be improved through our contribution here then that has to be a huge step forward.

But today's Chemo effects on Sue was just like poison. She had Breast Cancer leading to Lung etc etc

If I found myself in the position of being offered Chemotherapy today I would step aside and just go for broke.


Sek that Ice Volume Data collection has only just started with Cryosat 2 http://www.esa.int/esaLP/ESAOMH1VMOC_LPcryosat_0.html launched this year and still being tweaked today

so....PIOMASS is a computer model not reality as you present it as here

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/05/28/does-piomass-verify/

So PIOMASS is just a computer wishfully thinking about it's carefully crafted inputs


I have forgotten why I came here old age is getting me early

Ah yes (4 cores on this PC but only a single core still driving it)

http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/01/oxburgh-and-the-jones-admission/

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Today a good one for you: If you dig a hole and you realize you're in it, stop digging. Cryosat 2 will soon by you be declared as fudged and manipulated... does with every new piece of evidence... something along the line of the 8th decimal being wrong:

How many sunspots were counted for June? The weather report says it's hotter at the North Sea than at the closest beach here. Take of your second coat.

What has the SORCE TSI curve been doing lately. Been following the sunspot counts maybe, or not?

(IceBreaker) Captain's log supplemental: The Ice Is Rotten!

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Late PS: Of course too, such other available instrumentation used such as IceSat 1 and 2, don't exist http://icesat.gsfc.nasa.gov/ prior to Cryosat2 . The PIOMAS guys are really using the blindfold... it's so easy to dismiss from that famous gallery where peanuts are consumed.



75 days since I started this chart and 5 million km^2 has gone, 35%, another "that's all normal" 100,000 gone south, overnight.

For your eyes wide shut reading:
Decline in Arctic sea ice thickness fro...br />records: 1958–2008


It ain't true they say, without evidence, or pure science, only stolen emails.
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Dave i saw a report that 70 percent of Oncologists would NOT use chemo. Its poison
marysduby!!! I saw a report that 100% of people cured through chemotherapy would use chemo again. It's a lifesaver cool
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Dave i saw a report that 70 percent of Oncologists would NOT use chemo. Its poison
marysduby!!! I saw a report that 100% of people cured through chemotherapy would use chemo again. It's a lifesaver cool


Easy to say if you haven't seen anyone go through it. I know someone who's daughter and much much later, husband died of cancer. She says after having been through it twice and having seen what it did to them, she won't ever have Chemo, better to die quickly than to linger on and on while miserable.

In many cases Chemo isn't a cure - only a temporary life extension - and that is the problem with much cancer research today. They only get funding for projects that have a good chance of succeeding (i.e. increasing life expectancy by X weeks/months) Most companies aren't willing to take the big risk on finding a cure - (after all what would all the shareholders say if the drug didn't work?)
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DA, if you're really listening [reading], I'm sorry, but I can't make it look any better. You may wait for September 13, but already it is as certain as the sun coming up every day that July 2010 will be lower than 2009 and 2008. The kicker will be the 2007 monthly mean. If 2010 drops stays below the Icebreaker captain will have to edit his log: The Ice is [Really] rotten!



PS: DA, how hot is it in Odiham... is it save now to take of that first coat too? ... A phonecall yesterday informed me that the emergency services were out in Holland handing out water to drivers stuck in the usual traffic jams... apparently the all time heat record was almost broken... 38.6 C and that when the planet has been cooling since 2005 as per your famous 4 bar temp chart... when you said it was all we needed to know. So why do we need more data then from Cryosat2? More delay tactics for the inevitable Inconvenient Truth?

Happy Weekend, it's very hot here too, so we're not exiting ourselves.

PS: I've discovered that our Digital Weather Station in the absolute 24/7 shady side of the house is suffering from mini-UHI distortion. It's the anomalous cooling of the trees [some 3,000] which has been causing an under reporting... similar to what happened to that KNMI station the chief Aint True-Ist at WUWTBBOH had been laughing about. He cannot understand that GISS and all those other collators correct for this with math a few levels above his skill-set. Svante Arrhenius did some too around 1896 on CO2 in the atmosphere and concluded that we were in for something. It took until ~1955 to irrefutably proof it... Google and though will find.

PPS, got Antarctic and Global Sea Ice charts too. Wanna see?
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It's raining at the North Pole Webcam site, currently at around 88 dregrees North.



The big picture: http://www.arctic.noaa.gov/npole/2010/images/noaa2-2010-0702-134819.jpg and the next day
http://www.arctic.noaa.gov/npole/2010/images/noaa2-2010-0703-074457.jpg

The cams internal temp is 12.5C and far as I remember, rain is not very well becoming to ice. Interestingly, the melt ponds look like they start to get interconnected and water is flushing off to somewhere not far below. The yellow pod looks like it's able to float, on water... don't want to loose the equipment.
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