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Re: Not sure how much longer they will be able to keep crunching in the UK

I've just looked it up. Odiham RAF airport is 123 meters above [current] mean sea level.

http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/site/EGVO

The weather-station there of course suffers from tarmac UHI influences. The climatologists for instance at CRU and GISS know that so they compensate for that in trial tested manner.

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Public's Priorities for 2010

(from the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press -- January 25, 2010)



Most Americans say regulate greenhouse gases
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/behind-the-n...?wprss=behind-the-numbers

Some 71 percent of those surveyed back federal regulation of the release of greenhouse gases from sources like power plants, cars and factories in an effort to reduce global warming. The idea also had strong majority support in polls last year.

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A cross examination of global warming science conducted by the University of Pennsylvania's Institute for Law and Economics has concluded that virtually every claim advanced by global warming proponents fails to stand up to scrutiny.

An analysis by lawyers/law professors with no scientific background? This is like an art history professor critiquing the Maxwell equations of quantum mechanics. Thanks for the chuckle.
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Public's Priorities for 2010

(from the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press -- January 25, 2010)



Most Americans say regulate greenhouse gases
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/behind-the-n...?wprss=behind-the-numbers

Some 71 percent of those surveyed back federal regulation of the release of greenhouse gases from sources like power plants, cars and factories in an effort to reduce global warming. The idea also had strong majority support in polls last year.

That report is from Washington Pravda also read the posts to the made up poll--some more good news--http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_conten...residential_tracking_poll
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Public's Priorities for 2010

(from the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press -- January 25, 2010)



Most Americans say regulate greenhouse gases
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/behind-the-n...?wprss=behind-the-numbers

Some 71 percent of those surveyed back federal regulation of the release of greenhouse gases from sources like power plants, cars and factories in an effort to reduce global warming. The idea also had strong majority support in polls last year.

That report is from Washington Pravda also read the posts to the made up poll--some more good news--http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_conten...residential_tracking_poll

Rasmussen is a bad pollster; they have been an outlier to the rest of the polls and change direction or stop polling when it gets near the actual race (because they're usually wrong). Read Nate Silver's (among many others) analyses of Rasmussen. I've never read about WaPo being a bad pollster.
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It's not a question of being happy that it's happening... far from it... it's a question of only when we all can get past the ostrich phase, can we united action the demise of our planet. For the Ain't True side:

http://www.newscientist.com/special/living-in-denial

The strong DA observation of "ït will be back in 6 months"... till then more is gone than ever before in modern history... totally inexplicably against how it should be if only considering natural causes. Then men came around in the billions and started to become what is now known as "A Geological Factor". Pumping out billions of tonnes of Carbon Dioxide annually that Carboniferous epochs lasting 70 million years took to bind all that CO2 and through geological activity plowing it under to give us an atmosphere that had about 280 ppmv in the last few hundred thousand years at least.


PS: Littlepeaks, ocean water is not evenly distributed on the planet... it moves and shifts as it recently did on the US east coast when the Mexican gulf stream slowed down as part of the Thermohaline. Fooled by statistics! SLR is globally rising at the rate of +3mm annually... where else does 250 cubic km of Greenland annual sea ice melt end up [not to mention all that missing snow]? Greenland will rise many meters as that ice sheet melts off, and cause earth crust pressure shifts that will end in inexplicable earthquakes in formerly quite regions... will there be then crowing that that SLR rise Aint true? Surely you will remember that quip of DA that tectonics in my region is the cause... tell me something new please... I'm all ears.
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Oops, some substance... the effects of warmer ocean water creeping under the Greenland land fast glacial ice and the rice of the land:

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2010-050

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/05/100518170218.htm

Next prediction is when we'll be able to circumnavigate Greenland. Could even be 2010... the Vikings never succeeded doing that! Just for fun, a blog article http://www.scientificblogging.com/chatter_box/iceberg_alley_and_global_warming

The Titanic (and other ships too) would have had a save trip if it had sailed in 2010.
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http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/?report=global

Global Highlights

* The combined global land and ocean average surface temperature for May 2010 was 0.69°C (1.24°F) above the 20th century average of 14.8°C (58.6°F). This is the warmest such value on record since 1880.
* For March–May 2010, the combined global land and ocean surface temperature was 14.4°C (58.0°F) — the warmest March-May on record. This value is 0.73°C (1.31°F) above the 20th century average.
* The combined global land and ocean average surface temperature for January–May 2010 was the warmest on record. The year-to-date period was 0.68°C (1.22°F) warmer than the 20th century average.
* The worldwide ocean surface temperature for May 2010 was the second warmest May on record, behind 1998, 0.55°C (0.99°F) above the 20th century average of 16.3°C (61.3°F).
* The seasonal (March–May 2010) worldwide ocean surface temperature was the second warmest such period on record, 0.55°C (0.99°F) above the 20th century average of 16.1°C (61.0°F).
* The global land surface temperatures for May and the March–May period were the warmest on record, at 1.04°C (1.87°F) and 1.22°C (2.20°F) above the 20th century average, respectively.
* In the Northern Hemisphere, both the May 2010 average temperature for land areas, and the hemisphere as a whole (land and ocean surface combined), represented the warmest May on record. The Northern Hemisphere ocean temperature was the second warmest May on record. The average combined land and ocean surface temperature for the Northern Hemisphere was also record warmest for the March–May period.
* El Niño ended during May 2010. Sea surface temperature anomalies in the eastern equatorial Pacific Ocean cooled below the El Niño threshold, signifying a return to ENSO-neutral conditions. According to NOAA's Climate Prediction Center, sea surface cooling could result in a La Niña during the Northern Hemisphere summer 2010.
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[IceBreaker] Captain's log, supplemental:

Today we're traversing several meters thick ice. It's ugly, looking like polar bears have done their business here for longer ** and breaks up like icing on fluffy cake.



(Not so) pretty in pink, the 2010 deviation from 2003-2009 average

PS: found a list of quotes all containing the word "truth". Today I'll share:

Hope is nature's veil for hiding truth's nakedness.
Alfred Nobel

** I've stood on ice that looked like many had done their business on it and in it, and would not have dared skating on it... here's the present Arctic regional distribution:

Arctic Sea Ice June 15, 2010

and what it looked like 1 year ago exactly:

hmmm Hudson Bay looks particularly less covered in 2010 as well (darker gray is open water too!)

The world is cooling, but is that the Truth? Meantime our weather here is of huffing and puffing... and resorting to least physical movement whilst lingering in the shade.

happy crunching... [will do so as having hope men will learn, eventually at 11:59:59]
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Arctic Ice at Low Point Compared to Recent Geologic History:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/06/100602193423.htm

Now, in an upcoming issue of Quarternary Science Reviews, a team led by Ohio State University has re-examined the data from past and ongoing studies -- nearly 300 in all -- and combined them to form a big-picture view of the pole's climate history stretching back millions of years.

"The ice loss that we see today -- the ice loss that started in the early 20th Century and sped up during the last 30 years -- appears to be unmatched over at least the last few thousand years," said Leonid Polyak, a research scientist at Byrd Polar Research Center at Ohio State University.

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