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Thread: Team Challenge problem? [revisited again] |
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Former Member
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Challenges are still relatively new. The techs had hoped to be able to add a few new features to make challenging more interesting - but sadly more important things took precedence, and now it is unlikely challenges will be revisited for a while.
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Former Member
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I would agree that challenges should be the least of the priorities.
After all they don't really much increase production, they just move the stats around. Adds a fun element though. Challenges could always be issued privately elsewhere anyway. The only real advantage of doing it here is the readily recorded stats. Sure the techs have more important work to do  |
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zombie67 [MM]
Senior Cruncher USA Joined: May 26, 2006 Post Count: 228 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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A team like yours could join from the beginning, no gate crashing necessary. They could, but the idea was gate crashing ON PURPOSE if the challenge has no beginning date. ?? I never said anything having no beginning date. I said that teams should be able to join the challenge after the start. And then, of course, they would accrue points only from the date they join. For example, if there is a 30 day challenge, and a team joins 10 days late, they would end up with only the last 20 days of production counting toward the challenge. While the teams that joined on time would have the full 30 days. So if a team wanted to join late, they would have to accept the handicap that comes along with joining late. And since they would gain no advantage by having a reduced ability to contribute, there should be no restriction in joining late.  |
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Former Member
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Agreed..........can you add PCQandA to the challenge please.....just for fun of course
 Our capn tried to get us in but apparently was too late. We accept the minor one or two day handicap  |
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Former Member
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zombie67, you seem to have missed the point. The larger teams can walk all over the small teams. If a large team joins a challenge near the end, jumps to first place, wins the challenge - this is going to (understandably) upset the other contestants.
So, to be fair, nobody can join after the start. It's not really a major limitation - there are always more challenges in the future. And that, as they say, is how it is. |
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Former Member
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And if a mega team joins from the start they cream the smaller teams in their first week so joining early or late is moot.
If it's open why not truly open? |
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Former Member
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At the moment, that part relies on trust, in those cases where the challenger sets up some entry requirements that can't currently be checked automatically. But in open challenges, all the other teams can see which teams are going to compete, and even if the playing field isn't level, at least the rules don't change part way through.
You can't use "the system's not fair" as an argument for making the system less fair.... :-p |
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zombie67 [MM]
Senior Cruncher USA Joined: May 26, 2006 Post Count: 228 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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zombie67, you seem to have missed the point. The larger teams can walk all over the small teams. If a large team joins a challenge near the end, jumps to first place, wins the challenge - this is going to (understandably) upset the other contestants. I did not miss that point at all. In fact, I already addressed it earlier. As an open challenge, those larger teams were also free to join. If they could walk all over the smaller teams with fewer days (joining late), they could more easily do the same by joining on time. Again, there is no disadvantage to anyone, by a team joining late, other than to the late team itself. And that, as they say, is how it is. When the Christmas Race started, there were 101 teams. Now there are 102. It looks like *some* teams can join late. |
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retsof
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I never said anything having no beginning date. Well, there you go. If it's a 30 day challenge, and doesn't have a beginning date, and doesn't have an ending date, then every team should start crunching whenever they want, crunch for 30 days, and quit the challenge. After the last team has finished crunching 30 days worth, compare the results.I said that teams should be able to join the challenge after the start. And then, of course, they would accrue points only from the date they join. For example, if there is a 30 day challenge
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zombie67 [MM]
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I never said anything having no beginning date. Well, there you go. If it's a 30 day challenge, and doesn't have a beginning date, and doesn't have an ending date, then every team should start crunching whenever they want, crunch for 30 days, and quit the challenge.I said that teams should be able to join the challenge after the start. And then, of course, they would accrue points only from the date they join. For example, if there is a 30 day challenge ?? I'm beginning to suspect we aren't speaking the same language. I'm saying that there IS a beginning date, and there IS an end date. But teams should be allowed to join after the beginning date. And their points should accrue from their join date, not the start date, which is an obvious handicap to the late-joining team, and no one else. |
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