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Re: BOINC Points post in Member News

To those with many computers: if you value your time, you must think about how you deploy the client. There are loads of ways you can do it. Here are three suggestions:

If you use Active Directory, then the best solution is a Group Policy install with MSI. TheLazySlug can hook you up with a transform that will adjust all the setup settings to suit your particular needs. This is the easiest solution to manage and maintain, but you need a proper Windows Domain heirarchy.

Scripting. BOINC is fairly easy to install, and whether you use Linux or Windows, you can roll it out just by copying some files. There is no complicated dll registration or anything, just copy the folder. Minor drawback: it is hard to do a Windows service installation this way, and difficult to configure the screensaver. It's the perfect solution for Linux, of course - there should be existing scripts you can adapt.

Ghosting. In a corporate or academic environment, often there will be some kind of automated ghosting/deployment solution based on a standard platform build. If you have a setup like this, consult your documentation or ask for further advice.
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Re: BOINC Points post in Member News

piece of cake, 2 min with practice:D


Okay. Another way to do it. At 2 minutes per, the guy with 100 units needs to spend over 3 hours....assuming same location. Any way you look at it, getting back to my point, it *is* burdensome for those with many machines.



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Didactylos as the official face of WCG you are saying here that the farms etc are not what`s intended nor are they economical, nor do WCG care that you dedicate time and lots of money in the form of hardware to the project.

IF THIS IS THE OFFICIAL LINE YOU MAY FIND A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL WITHDRAW FROM THE PROJECT.

Howether if this is personal opinion may I suggest in future you find another username to post under. Your comments are a direct slap in the face to a lot of dedicated people. I ask you to rethink your remarks.

The vast majority of WCG members (hundreds of thousands of them!) are average computer users, donating a few spare cycles.


The vast majority of crunching is done by dedicated teams 24/7, which appears to your view to be unnecessary, unwarranted and uneconomical.


As a quick glance at the stats should show you, the VAST majority of WCG's power comes from individuals, often unaffiliated with any team. Second come the corporate or academic contributions - networks of hundreds or thousands of computers, with cycles going spare. These are computers in schools and offices, in regular use. The supercrunchers with dedicated computer farms and maybe tens or even hundreds of computers solely dedicated to WCG come third, and (even counting all the overclocker/supercruncher team members, whether they have 2 or 20 computers) they only account for a small fraction of WCG's total.

I'm afraid you have (once again) forced me to repeat myself: WCG are grateful no matter how much or little you donate. No contribution, however tiny or mind-bogglingly big, is ignored or unappreciated.

What I'm saying is that WCG's policies, processes, and recruitment campaign is aimed at individuals and corporations, and never, ever does WCG ask anyone to invest in hardware. That is a donation for which WCG is grateful, but if you invest in hardware then it is your decision, and yours alone. You won't get special treatment from WCG because you are turning a hobby into a passion. Well, WCG will spend as much time as they can on your particular needs - supercrunchers bring a lot of other advantages and the very last thing WCG want to do is leave anyone dissatisfied.

Finally, anyone donating hundreds or thousands of computers can get one-on-one help setting up the grid from the WCG staff.

Please remember the core idea of grid computing: to tap an unused, wasted resource. While it is fun to run a server farm (if you have the money) it may not be the best way to contribute to the science. A few times in these forums people have worked out the costs of grid computing, and the bottom line is this: grid computing only in spare cycles, while the computer is on already, costs a negligible amount. You probably lose more money down the back of sofas than you will donating time to WCG. But if you run a dedicated computer 24/7, then the costs add up very, very quickly indeed - and if you add the initial purchase cost, then this turns out to be a very, very expensive hobby. If you only care about points, or about the fun of stressing PCs to their limits, then all well and good. However, if you want to contribute the maximum to the advancement of science, or you want to prevent damage to the environment, then perhaps you should power down your spare computers.

World Community Grid do have an official line on this: they ask only for your unused cycles. Anything above that is gratefully received, but unasked for.
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There are many different ways to gain nototiety at WCG. One way is to complete school, learn how to learn and then learn about computing in general and WCG more specifically. Luckily for us, Didactylos has chosen this latter course.

The other way to gain notoriety is to learn how to bolt and snap together off the shelf parts and system components, run a few goof proof wizards, install BOINC and then proceed to put your feet in your mouth every time you post, misinterpreting and twisting everything everybody else says, usually out of ignorance, sometimes just for sport. Luckily for us, a few have chosen this latter path to notoriety, lucky because it demonstrates for us what the lowest common denominator is. These people think the handiest utility they have on their computer is the one that automatically inserts an apostrophe before every trailing s, just in case they miss one, so they don't look like an ijit. Hoo HAAA. They're soooooo smard.
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Re: BOINC Points post in Member News

Bumpity bump



????????bump??????
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Re: BOINC Points post in Member News

thats uneccessary!!

kudo ' s !! to thse whom snap parts together and feed electric power for human enrichment ...

elitists often forget who paves the road, who stocks the shelves and who makes sure all the sewage drains away.......

remember : every once in a while all us drones take our balls and go home , especially at times when you think you do it all by yourselves. and then you whine.
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Re: BOINC Points post in Member News

Bumpity bump



????????bump??????

Just keeping the trolls away Mike wink
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I don't understand this "bump" thing either.
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