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Sekerob
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Re: BOINC Points post in Member News

Appreciate that, but in the particular case of ozylynx, he's only running FA@H on that machine.

ozylynx, could u please look up the value and post.
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Re: BOINC Points post in Member News

Just a reminder to all.

We are trying to get 2 new projects out the door. Christmas is coming. HPF2 still needs a lot of work. About all we can do on points just now is gather statistics and think about what to recommend for a long term solution.

It's a bit like steering an ocean-going freighter. You have to think a long way ahead. It is very different than steering a lightweight automobile.

Lawrence

Sheesh I did it again! blushing
This isn't a punitive action. I have a number of projects on the go and I try out different combos. Like moving deck chairs on the Titanic. This one seems to be better placed elsewhere for now. It'll be back. Who really cares where the old girl goes? I know it doesn't contribute very much wherever it is. laughing It's either DC or the rubbish tip. that's why no more Ram. I don't even know if it'll run 256MB sticks even if PC100 wasn't so expensive.

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Re: BOINC Points post in Member News

Ozzy....Have plenty sitting about but may take a while to OZ.....

You`re very welcome if you want ! biggrin
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Re: BOINC Points post in Member News

ozylynx, could u please look up the value and post.

???? What value is that Sek?

Bring 'em on carl.... I've also got a GX1 with 4 Dimms so Ram's no problem there, it's 2 Mhz too slow though.... laughing Plenty of 128 and 64 lying about. Still got 16 unused ports in the switch too.

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Re: BOINC Points post in Member News

Will sort them out tomorrow for you, if you come over the teddies forum and sign up you can PM me or send mail to carl"at"teddies.be
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Re: BOINC Points post in Member News

ozylynx, could u please look up the value and post.

???? What value is that Sek?


The one discussed 1/2/3 posts up in this thread:

<duration_correction_factor>0.795994</duration_correction_factor>

sits in the client_State.xml file. If > 1, your machine is slower than the benchmark, if < 1, your machine is faster. With FA@H only on your machine it's an indicator how fast the effective processing takes place, which could indicate why the claims are higher on a WU than the average.

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Re: BOINC Points post in Member News

OK
So this bit gets read. If this relates to the most recent WU the following number would have been generated while running 2 simultaneous projects
It is likely not representative... Duration correction factor 1.602721

If it is valid how could that happen on a dedicated drone? I'm loathe to say it but I even removed Norton recently to see if it would help. It is somewhat buried behind firewall and doesn't surf the net.....Background on this machine is almost zero.

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okay, here goes.... your box is a dedicated drone that only can and does FA@H. On the Quorum 3 sample you gave, the machine send in a claim of: 34.75 105 / 22. The value 105 is excess of the 43 by a factor of 244%, thus a far outlier, which under the new rule gets half of the median of the 2 others in quorum i.e the 22.

Based on the benchmark your machine should approximately have claimed a value of 105 / 1.60271 = 65.51 or in different terms, it should have finished the job in 34.75 / 1.60271 = 21.68 hours, at which time it would have claimed the 65.5. Surprise surprise that would have been the expected value for a FA@H.

Now the other machines claiming 43 in that quorum, assuming they only done FA@H for a while, have a DCF of less than 1 (carl.h's list of 10 or so in a row would set an enough stable number). I Suppose Carl.h can look it up his DCF.... effectively his boxes are completing the WU faster than the benchmark suggests..... we knew that already, but he needs to give us his DCF to confirm....the present Benchmark ignores the memory size.

If running in 256mb ram, there will be substantially more swapping than on a 512mb. Why.... well we know that FA@H on a high rammed machine uses 285 peak ram.

I'm getting the picture..... suppose others long figured it out (of course i could always have it entirely by the wrong stick).

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Re: BOINC Points post in Member News

Just a reminder to all.

We are trying to get 2 new projects out the door. Christmas is coming. HPF2 still needs a lot of work. About all we can do on points just now is gather statistics and think about what to recommend for a long term solution.
It's a bit like steering an ocean-going freighter. You have to think a long way ahead. It is very different than steering a lightweight automobile.

Lawrence

Very sorry to hear that...
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Re: BOINC Points post in Member News

Based on the benchmark your machine should approximately have claimed a value of 105 / 1.60271 = 65.51 or in different terms, it should have finished the job in 34.75 / 1.60271 = 21.68 hours, at which time it would have claimed the 65.5. Surprise surprise that would have been the expected value for a FA@H.

I've looked at a couple of my machines on that basis and each comes much closer to anticipated results. Clever devil you are!!

So it would seem that the fault may be that BOINC isn't applying this factor?
No doubt it can be edited by those who know how and ......
Please, please tell me I'm wrong about that!!!

Cheers smile ozylynx
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