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Bearcat, did you install Ubuntu directly, or through Wubi? I know the disk I/O is slower and the efficiency less with Wubi installs.
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Bearcat, did you install Ubuntu directly, or through Wubi? I know the disk I/O is slower and the efficiency less with Wubi installs.


Clean install of 10.4 from a disc, then upgraded through 11.4. Thinking of raising write to disc from default time by a minute each day to see if this improves it. Could try installing 11.4 clean on my ssd, then copy boinc contents to proper areas but not sure if that's a bad idea or not. Would this be doable?
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What I dont know is whether TRIM is supported under ubuntu. Anyone know for sure if it does?
Yes it does, from Ubuntu 10.10 / kernel 2.6.33.
You need to add 'discard' to the file system options in /etc/fstab for TRIM to work, see
http://askubuntu.com/questions/18903/how-to-enable-trim

Is there a program for ubuntu that would move the entire boinc project to another disc?
Not that I know of, but you can do it manually from the command line.

0) Check the file /etc/default/boinc-client, it contains a variable BOINC_DIR with the folder BOINC is using.
For a default install on Ubuntu 11.10, this is /var/lib/boinc-client

1) Shut down boinc (important, or you may get corrupted files):
sudo service boinc-client stop
2) Check the permissions for the existing BOINC folder.
$ ls -ld /var/lib/boinc-client
drwxr-xr-x 5 boinc boinc 4096 2011-12-07 18:28 /var/lib/boinc-client
3) Create a directory on the new disk with the same permissions, and copy the contents:
  # make new dir; assuming that the new disk is mounted on srv:
$ sudo mkdir /srv/boinc
# set boinc as owner
$ sudo chown boinc.boinc /srv/boinc
# copy. need the -a flag for the copy to have the same permissions as the original
$ sudo cp -ar /var/lib/boinc-client/* /srv/boinc
4) Edit /etc/default/boinc-client to point to the new location:
# BOINC_DIR="/var/lib/boinc-client"
BOINC_DIR="/srv/boinc"
4) Restart Boinc:
sudo service boinc-client start
Check that Boinc keeps folding where it left off. If something went wrong, you can change BOINC_DIR back to the original and restart the boinc-client service.

I have done this on several machines, it works fine.
But there is always some risk when fiddling around at the lower levels, so I suggest switching at a point where the worst-case loss of your work in progress would be tolerable.
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Thanks for the instructions. Think I will just wait until I empty boinc and reinstall to the ssd so I don't screw something up. But, couldn't I remove my hard drive, reinstall OS and boinc on the ssd, plug in other drive and replace the proper folder in the right place? Just a thought.
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Very nice instructions!!! Also thank for Trim link, very cool!
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Some €uro stuff...

Kändelä -index was accurate once again...
With this I mean that when something that should be luxury item regarding technology evolution, is more cheaper that item that is essential for surviving as standard solution, there must be something wrong on big picture...
There is, there is something very severely wrong on €urope...
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/08/us-ecb-rates-idUSTRE7B701520111208

Well, my oreganos like to live on rockwool, move them to bigger cubes.
Should really scrape some of that mold away. tongue


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@Bearcat Yes, it should work, but you might need to do some manual tweaking of ownership and symlinks afterwards. (The system may think that the 'old boinc' is a different user than the 'new boinc', and the symlinks might break.)
I'd still suggest doing it at a point where you wouldn't mind too much if you lose all work in progress.

@brinktastee Thanks!

Happy crunching :)
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@Bearcat Yes, it should work, but you might need to do some manual tweaking of ownership and symlinks afterwards. (The system may think that the 'old boinc' is a different user than the 'new boinc', and the symlinks might break.)
I'd still suggest doing it at a point where you wouldn't mind too much if you lose all work in progress.

@brinktastee Thanks!

Happy crunching :)


Thanks for the help. I'll wait until the least amount of lost work before I do anything.

Well, the adjustment of writing to disk shows no improvement. But, decided to drop to 9 threads out of 12. Dropped to under 2 minutes lost time for a 4 hour wu. Something is not right here. Another thing is I notice is no turbo at all. My win7 machine has 2 X5670 (2.93) and turbo is at 3.2. Not sure if this has anything to do with this or not. Have read linux doesnt kick in turbo like windows does. Since my windows machine looses less than a minute using 22 threads, should I bring this up to the techs or is this a disk problem? Both systems use a super micro X8DTI-F mother board.
Another question. When installing windows, have a disk from super micro to load additional drivers for windows. Nothing for linux AFAIK. Could this be the difference?
This is really bugging me not able to use my system to its max power. Appreciate any suggestions.

Almost ready to buy win7 and dump ubuntu but hope I can correct this.
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Just another thought. Use clonezilla and clone to another disk. I know I have to use equal or greater size. I have a 1TB hitachi (same as in my win7 machine) I could use to replace the maxtor. Any issues doing this I should be aware of? Being a clone, I wouldn't think any problems. Would boinc have issues?
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We are doing well, especially for such a small team! http://boincstats.com/bam/challengeChat.php?pr=wcg&chid=168
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