Index  | Recent Threads  | Unanswered Threads  | Who's Active  | Guidelines  | Search
 

Quick Go »
No member browsing this thread
Thread Status: Active
Total posts in this thread: 203
Posts: 203   Pages: 21   [ Previous Page | 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 | Next Page ]
[ Jump to Last Post ]
Post new Thread
Author
Previous Thread This topic has been viewed 152800 times and has 202 replies Next Thread
Brummig
Cruncher
Joined: Sep 19, 2016
Post Count: 22
Status: Offline
Project Badges:
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: 2022-08-19 (Networking Issue Update)

I find that mashing the retry button makes no real difference, as although some files come in faster, there are always one or two stragglers that take days to come in, no matter what I do. Also, I have multiple hosts, three of which are headless, so retry button mashing is not very practical. IMHO, adjusting the deadline by several days to compensate for the slow download seems like the best workaround. Does anyone have a better idea?
[Aug 27, 2022 8:06:46 AM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
nivrip
Senior Cruncher
North Yorkshire
Joined: Sep 13, 2007
Post Count: 262
Status: Offline
Project Badges:
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: 2022-08-19 (Networking Issue Update)

I have had many WUs that got stuck in Transfers but have ALWAYS managed to get them into Tasks by repeatedly using the Retry button. Sometimes takes a minute or two but have never had an outright failure. It's certainly a pain in the *** but I seem to be getting plenty of work now.
----------------------------------------
ЮРКШИР КРУНЧЕР
[Aug 27, 2022 11:43:47 AM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
Traveller42
Cruncher
Joined: May 7, 2017
Post Count: 21
Status: Offline
Project Badges:
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: 2022-08-19 (Networking Issue Update)

Based on the detail provided by alanb1951 and without any detailed knowledge of their infrastructure, it appears that they run out of instances to service requests, or these services are not really ready when the connection is made.

I would hope that they are not dispatching new instances when the request arrives and are relaying to a worker pool. There could be an issue with scaling the pool for current request rate. Here, it is possible that new workers are not added fast enough and a given request has nowhere to go. It is also possible that the worker is added to the pool before it is actually able to handle the request.

Another possibility is that there is a backend resource the get exhausted, and that is the source of the 503. This would be similar to the first case, just a layer deeper in the stack.

I suspect the key is to reliably determine when the resource is truly ready, and only dispatch requests to those instances. In many situations, this is non-trivial and the dynamic nature of the environment does not help.
----------------------------------------
[Edit 2 times, last edit by Traveller42 at Aug 27, 2022 5:01:20 PM]
[Aug 27, 2022 4:59:01 PM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
Incorporat3d
Cruncher
Joined: Jan 17, 2009
Post Count: 4
Status: Offline
Project Badges:
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: 2022-08-19 (Networking Issue Update)

I have also noticed great difficulty in getting task files, spent all yesterday trying to force them through and eventually got there so 15 of my 16 cores were busy. But today there are only 3 tasks running.

But my biggest concern is that the portal doesn't show that i have an active machine and isn't recognizing that im even contributing...
[Aug 28, 2022 12:06:04 AM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
aegidius
Cruncher
Joined: Aug 29, 2006
Post Count: 25
Status: Offline
Project Badges:
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: 2022-08-19 (Networking Issue Update)

It's acknowledging receipt of results, and accumulating points in the Boinc app, but not showing any on the front screen for the days of the week.. Not even a list of devices.
[Aug 28, 2022 4:52:55 AM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
KPD
Cruncher
Joined: Apr 30, 2007
Post Count: 2
Status: Offline
Project Badges:
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: 2022-08-19 (Networking Issue Update)

I have had many WUs that got stuck in Transfers but have ALWAYS managed to get them into Tasks by repeatedly using the Retry button. Sometimes takes a minute or two but have never had an outright failure. It's certainly a pain in the *** but I seem to be getting plenty of work now.

This is my experience, as well.
And it's very annoying trying to monitor multiple machines.
[Aug 28, 2022 5:56:32 AM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
Robokapp
Senior Cruncher
Joined: Feb 6, 2012
Post Count: 248
Status: Offline
Project Badges:
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: 2022-08-19 (Networking Issue Update)

sometimes it's a big list that I have to spend a long time refreshing for them all to flush through...
[Aug 28, 2022 6:20:58 AM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
Richard Haselgrove
Senior Cruncher
United Kingdom
Joined: Feb 19, 2021
Post Count: 360
Status: Offline
Project Badges:
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: 2022-08-19 (Networking Issue Update)

I was manually massaging the long lists quite successfully, until around 12:00 UTC - then they started getting stickier and stickier (multiple project backoffs).

What happened - did America wake up and start doing the same thing?
[Aug 28, 2022 1:40:39 PM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
Grumpy Swede
Master Cruncher
Svíþjóð
Joined: Apr 10, 2020
Post Count: 2084
Status: Offline
Project Badges:
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: 2022-08-19 (Networking Issue Update)

Ah well, manual massaging or batch file massaging, without any of that, there will not be any new files downloaded, only this from BOINC:
"Not requesting tasks: some download is stalled"

So far today, I've managed to massage down a couple of hundred OPNG tasks.
[Aug 28, 2022 2:38:16 PM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
Posts: 203   Pages: 21   [ Previous Page | 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 | Next Page ]
[ Jump to Last Post ]
Post new Thread