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Stiwi
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Re: Comprehensive Issue List & Report Thread (Aug. 15, 2022)

I don't see this issue mentioned anywhere else - I can't download the WCG/BOINC app on Android.

- If you log in, go to Downloads, and pick Android and click next, it takes you to a Google Play page with an "app not found" message
- If you search the Google Play store directly, there's no BOINC or WCG app listed



Google is going the same route as Apple and no longer allowing apps that download executables.

Also, new policy change says you can only purchase content that gets billed through the Play Store. So for example if you want to purchase titles for nook or Kindle, you can't... The work around is you install the apps through another app store, such as Samsung or Amazon.

Nice to see Google to copy Apple while criticizing them...


But you can still download the apk directly from the boinc servers:
https://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php or from F-Droid
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Re: Comprehensive Issue List & Report Thread (Aug. 15, 2022)

Well. That's it for me. Krembil has managed to suck the fun out of WCG. Good luck, everyone. My crunchers are now for sale.

Deltavee:
Sorry to see you go. You have been a major contributor. The losers are the researchers.
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cool Re: Comprehensive Issue List & Report Thread (Aug. 9, 2022)

Unless your trying to earn Gridcoin?
I note that WCG isn't whitelisted by GRC at this moment, although average credit does seem to be being registered in the GRC client.
That has absolutely nothing to do with anything WCG!

It hooks into the API of the BOINCclient and does whatever is does with the info that the client is providing about this work being performed. There is absolutely no communication betwen Grdcoin and WCG, or any other BOINC based project for that matter...


I agree, it doesn't. I've been running Boinc for a longtime and absolutely favour medical projects where I can. WCG has been a particular favourite of mine because of the mix of workloads, bith GPU and CPU that can benifit medical science.

The good news is that WGC seems to becoming much more stable, and in fact the project is whitelisted again in GRC which must reflect that stability.

I also wish the team all the luck because of the nature of WGC. Sometimes the layman can't really appreciate the massive scale of projects like this and there's an element of luck and art required on top of the technical skills.

Thanks team for working so hard to get this back online.
Long may it continue.
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Re: Comprehensive Issue List & Report Thread (Aug. 9, 2022)

I've done a little bit of network tracing on the connection problems I was having a couple of weeks back, and I could see that the TCP connections were made, but I was getting TCP resets back from the WCG server end.

There is some data coming over these connections but without fiddling with TLS capture and decryption I can't see whats in the response.

If this is a 503 error, it would indicate the stack is working up to the httpd application layer for us to get that error.

If I was working on this, I'd be looking at the capacity of the httpd processes being used as there are usually settings that affect max processes\threads\sockets etc.

I've never worked on anything of this scale however, only a few thousand users or so which is tiny compared to the scale of WCG.
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Re: Comprehensive Issue List & Report Thread (Aug. 9, 2022)

OK, done another little bit of network capture and I can some good connections going to download.worldcommunitygrid.org as an HTTP TLSv1.2 connection.

On a good download from this server, I see nothing odd apart from a few duplicate TCP ACK packets from the sever end. This might not be the httpd server, but an accelerator or most any other higher layer network devices, reverse proxies, firewalls, accelerators etc.

Interestingly my bad downloads seem to be coming from deploy.cloud.sharcnet.ca and the TCP stream looks weird. I'd normally expect to see a 3 packet handshae to setup the session, some data transfer and then the session end (4 packets). But I can't seem to capture the TCP SYNs. What I am seeing though is an encrypted alert from the server, followed by a RST from my client, and then a FIN from the server.

Might have to do some more extensive captures but the doggo wants a walk! :)
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Re: Comprehensive Issue List & Report Thread (Aug. 15, 2022)

Points are being aggregated and available for export.
Sites such as Free-DC show them.
WCG website should show total points once fixed.
It is less clear whether points per device/project are being saved.

Paul.

Paul, I don't think that this happens.
There are these personal pages on other projects, where one can see, beside the credit and other details for the given project, also the average credit and the total credit points for all other BOINC projects which one participates in.
On all these pages, the WCG values are the ones from BEFORE the transition sad

next problem:
just for testing purposes, I recently added another PC, and eventuelly I got some tasks. I then wanted to assign a profile to this PC, but looking up the device manager showed me that this new PC is not listet.
Which shows that this does not work either sad

My frustration level about WCG has reached a maximum right now. How come it took them months since they left IBM, and at least half of the whole thing is not working properly.

And the next frustration is: no word whatsoever from the project team sad I am afraid that it is not clear to them that we all spend our time as well as part of our constantly increasing electricity bill for this project. So they could at least tell us from time to time what's going on and how much longer it weill take them to get all the current problems straightened out sad
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Re: Comprehensive Issue List & Report Thread (Aug. 15, 2022)

erich56:
I recently added another PC, and eventuelly I got some tasks. I then wanted to assign a profile to this PC, but looking up the device manager showed me that this new PC is not listet.

Did you take any similar steps as outlined in this post or did you take any other steps?
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Re: Comprehensive Issue List & Report Thread (Aug. 9, 2022)

OK, done another little bit of network capture and I can some good connections going to download.worldcommunitygrid.org as an HTTP TLSv1.2 connection.

On a good download from this server, I see nothing odd apart from a few duplicate TCP ACK packets from the sever end. This might not be the httpd server, but an accelerator or most any other higher layer network devices, reverse proxies, firewalls, accelerators etc.

Interestingly my bad downloads seem to be coming from deploy.cloud.sharcnet.ca and the TCP stream looks weird.
Well, sharnet.ca is the universities' service provider in the eastern provinces of Canada where Krembil is part of (they are in Toronto). And there certainly is some form of load balancer/aggregator in front of the actual servers, so that's what you're likely seeing in your captures.
If I was working on this, I'd be looking at the capacity of the httpd processes being used as there are usually settings that affect max processes\threads\sockets etc.

I've never worked on anything of this scale however, only a few thousand users or so which is tiny compared to the scale of WCG.
Me neither, but I am doing IP networking for about 35 years now. And for the last two months I have been saying that this is not a "bandwidth" issue, but something more server side. The httpd server could be one of the possibilities, but an also often overlooked issue that I have seen (for example when small Internet startups here in Silicon Beach are trying to "scale up" just before or after they sold out) is the number of concurrent file handles of the file system or a similar issue on the database server (cluster) and access to the database.

Yes, the response on a failed connection is a 503 error and that corresponds rather perfectly with those 107 bytes (no more, no less biggrin ) that you see as "transferred" when the connection actually doesn't get established. This seems to indicate that the IP stack in fact is making a connection, but no data is forthcoming from either the database or the filesystem.

But this is an issue that one can only properly diagnose on the "inside" of the setup, as that is communication that you can't capture from the outside. So let's hope that the powers to be at WVG's tech team can switch their radars from long range mode to close-in combat mode and finally come up with a lasting fix for this. It's two days until the 1 year anniversary...

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Re: Comprehensive Issue List & Report Thread (Aug. 9, 2022)

So, does this mean that WUs that were run on my machine but aren't showing up in My Contributions are valid, but the website isn't updating (for a known issue)?
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Re: Comprehensive Issue List & Report Thread (Aug. 9, 2022)

Yes, validated, sent to researchers and counted.
External sites are extracting stats but they do not show here.
See also other recent threads:
https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/listrecentthreads

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