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tazzduke
Advanced Cruncher Australia Joined: Aug 8, 2009 Post Count: 56 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
Wow, that is a pretty nice setup :-)
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cristipurdel
Senior Cruncher Joined: Dec 13, 2008 Post Count: 158 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
It is crunching since 4 weeks now w/o any problems and good performance. 30 cores at 30watt, so that's 1watt/core. I can really recommend that system, if you are looking for silent and efficient crunching. I'm not trying to spoil your fun, but I am getting 8cores / 3 Watts (in the last 1-2 years), however the frequency is lower. I still believe that the phones are the most efficient crunchers, especially with screen off. The big question is when/if we can use the arm gpu for crunching :) |
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KodeX
Advanced Cruncher Germany Joined: Aug 17, 2006 Post Count: 92 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
I'm not trying to spoil your fun, but I am getting 8cores / 3 Watts (in the last 1-2 years), however the frequency is lower. I still believe that the phones are the most efficient crunchers, especially with screen off. The big question is when/if we can use the arm gpu for crunching :) Don't worry, I am still happy with my small custer . I saw your setup (on the link in your signature), wow that is great! I had some old phones crunching in the past as well. Their performance was something like 1.000 to 3.500 points per day (depending on phone). After having a swollen battery at one of these, I decided to retire the phones and to get something different. On your website I saw that you replaced some batteries/run without battery. Seems like you solved that problem/risk. One of my N2 now generates about 13.000-16.000 points per day (so one N2 has higher performance than my 4 old phones together ). They exact amount of points depends on the project. In average the 5x N2 are at 75.000points/day. If you focus on threads running, I am sure a phone cluster is more efficient than a N2 cluster (more threads/watt, like you wrote). The N2 cluster might be ahead regarding FLOPS/watt. And yeah, it would be great if you could use arm gpus for crunching. |
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cristipurdel
Senior Cruncher Joined: Dec 13, 2008 Post Count: 158 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
And yeah, it would be great if you could use arm gpus for crunching. Try to follow sirzooro advice ()for milkyway, could work for others too) in https://github.com/BOINC/boinc/issues/1686#issuecomment-614295134 If it is working, please let us know ---------------------------------------- [Edit 1 times, last edit by cristipurdel at Jun 3, 2020 1:21:15 PM] |
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jackielan2000
Advanced Cruncher China Joined: Dec 31, 2005 Post Count: 115 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
And yeah, it would be great if you could use arm gpus for crunching. Try to follow sirzooro advice ()for milkyway, could work for others too) in https://github.com/BOINC/boinc/issues/1686#issuecomment-614295134 If it is working, please let us know Uhhh, Linux x86_64. Don't have Linux though. If anyone compiled the code, I'd like to try it on my Andoird TV-box. Milkyway's WUs are like SCC, I'm sure the TV-box can handle it.
AMD Athlon64X2 5400+ 2.8G | 2c
MT6735 1.4G | 4c Helio G85 1.8G |8c Allwinner H2 1G | 4c SnapDragon 810 2.1G | 8c SnapDragon 801 2.5G | 4c |
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aaabaaab
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Short update on daily production per Android device I use:
----------------------------------------Raspberry Pi4 - 4gb RAM - MCC wu - 4,585 points RP4 - 2gb RAM - MCC wu - 4,327 points (*) Odroid N2 - MCC wu - 13,421 points Odroid XU4 - MCC wu - 5,090 points Odroid XU4Q - MCC wu - 5,059 points RP3 - OPN wu (MCC wu generate errors so I switched it to OPN) 2,458 points Points shown are averages over the last 14 days, except (*) the RP4 - 2GB - this one I've tested for 5 days only. |
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Glen David Short
Senior Cruncher Joined: Nov 6, 2008 Post Count: 185 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
Short update on daily production per Android device I use: Raspberry Pi4 - 4gb RAM - MCC wu - 4,585 points RP4 - 2gb RAM - MCC wu - 4,327 points (*) Odroid N2 - MCC wu - 13,421 points Odroid XU4 - MCC wu - 5,090 points Odroid XU4Q - MCC wu - 5,059 points RP3 - OPN wu (MCC wu generate errors so I switched it to OPN) 2,458 points Points shown are averages over the last 14 days, except (*) the RP4 - 2GB - this one I've tested for 5 days only. Thank you Mr aaabaaab for posting this, its a very useful comparison! I wonder how the N2 would fare in WCG compared with its X86 cousin, the H2+? [Edit 1 times, last edit by Glen David Short at Jul 10, 2020 3:05:59 AM] |
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aaabaaab
Cruncher Joined: Jul 31, 2016 Post Count: 42 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
Orange Pi Plus2 (A7@1.6GHz - quad core) on Open Pandemics
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Drago75
Cruncher Joined: May 17, 2020 Post Count: 20 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
For a while I have been testing various devices to find out which ones get the most WU's done compared to the price I had to pay for them. In case anyone is interested here are few values for WCG Open Pandemics:
Galaxy S8: 12 WU in 24hrs or 6.600 points. Cost: about 40€ if you buy it with a shattered glass on Ebay Galaxy S9: 23 WU`s or 12.700 points. Cost: around 70€ Galaxy S10: 23 WU's or 13.200 points. Cost: around 100€ Huawei P20: 5 WU's or 2.700 points. Cost: unknown Sony Xperia Z3: 2-3 WU's if run at 60 degress C. Cost: unknown Intel NUC10i7FNK: up to 55 WU's. Cost: around 500€ I find that the Galaxys run best at 4/8 cores at 80%. I keep them on a notebook cooler and have them run 24/7 since they consume only around 3 Watts each. The NUC runs on 12/12 but only at 55% cpu time since it gets hot easily although equiped with a fan. Apparently it wasn't designed for crunching. The temperature peaks now at round 75 degress C. The Galaxys and the Huawei peak at round 32 degress. Didn't root them as I want them to live long. From my point of view the Galaxy S9 is the best compromise at the moment. Does anyone have values for devices which can compete with or are even better than the S9? Will keep my eyes open for the Odroid N2 but it is almost not available in Europe. |
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KodeX
Advanced Cruncher Germany Joined: Aug 17, 2006 Post Count: 92 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
I think it is time to bring this wonderful thread back to life :)
In the next months I would like to add some new android systems (about 30-50 cores), since my small N2 cluster is getting old... So I started to look für efficent Android crunching devices. One thing that looks interesting is the Orange Pi 5 plus . The hardware looks promising but the software seems to be challenging. Does anyone have experience with an Orange Pi 5 (Plus, Pro, Max, whatever), especially regarding BOINC/WCG performance? What other up-to-date android systems on the market do you recommend for 24/7 crunshing? |
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