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Former Member
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Hi, I'm blind here, so soldering won't be something I'll be remotely comfortable with. I'm up in Canada, so I'll give the windows a try since it's well below freezing out right now. Is there a theoretical safe temperature for the battery if the phone is going to be used? Boinc has it set to 40 C but should I go cooler if I want long term usage? thank you I would say try to keep the battery below 40C. When I had 40C set as max on my old droid turbo, the cpu was directly behind the battery and 40C on the battery would be very warm. I dropped it to 35C. You mention being in Canada. Do you have attic storage or an unheated garage that has power and access to wifi? At my old house, I had attic storage above my attached unheated garage, and it was very cool up there in winter. Summer was another story. But once temps cooled down, I would move my crunching phones up to that unheated area of the attic. They stayed nice and cool even at 100%, and still close enough to the router so wifi was nice and strong. Other ideas to consider. |
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wolfman1360
Senior Cruncher Canada Joined: Jan 17, 2016 Post Count: 176 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
Hi, I'm blind here, so soldering won't be something I'll be remotely comfortable with. I'm up in Canada, so I'll give the windows a try since it's well below freezing out right now. Is there a theoretical safe temperature for the battery if the phone is going to be used? Boinc has it set to 40 C but should I go cooler if I want long term usage? thank you I would say try to keep the battery below 40C. When I had 40C set as max on my old droid turbo, the cpu was directly behind the battery and 40C on the battery would be very warm. I dropped it to 35C. You mention being in Canada. Do you have attic storage or an unheated garage that has power and access to wifi? At my old house, I had attic storage above my attached unheated garage, and it was very cool up there in winter. Summer was another story. But once temps cooled down, I would move my crunching phones up to that unheated area of the attic. They stayed nice and cool even at 100%, and still close enough to the router so wifi was nice and strong. Other ideas to consider. This is actually a great idea. I'll give this a shot! Yes - I'm noticing 40 c is just a little too warm, I think. The CPU appears to heat up a lot more on the top side of the phone too.
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Yeah on all the phones I have disassembled over the years, the processors have always been on the top portion of the phone/tablet. The battery takes up most of the central part, and the charging port is usually at the bottom. The only phone I have disassembled that was any different was my droid turbo. The CPU was more in the middle, sandwiched between the battery and the screen. Cooked the battery really quick. I have since remedied that situation but not before the first battery turned into a balloon.
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KLiK
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Guys, you that use Android TV devices such as MXQ, which is also in my possession. It doesn't have the battery.
----------------------------------------But how much do you leave it to go up with temp.? Just searching for Tjunc for the CPU of that MXQ Android TV... |
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Guys, you that use Android TV devices such as MXQ, which is also in my possession. It doesn't have the battery. But how much do you leave it to go up with temp.? Just searching for Tjunc for the CPU of that MXQ Android TV... What chipset is it running? You should be able to find it using cpu-z app to see what safe operating temps are. It will probably throttle itself around 80C from what I have seen of other android devices. I think 80 is a little too high myself. The android box you mentioned from a google search looks like it could be easily opened. I would open it up and look to see if they have put an adequate heatsink on the chip. If not, add a heatsink, and if possible, maybe even a small USB powered fan to add active cooling. For the heatsink, I have found that there is a thermal glue that can be mixed like an epoxy and when dry the heatsink will hold solid against the chip as opposed to a thermal paste that would not hold it. |
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KLiK
Master Cruncher Croatia Joined: Nov 13, 2006 Post Count: 3108 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
Guys, you that use Android TV devices such as MXQ, which is also in my possession. It doesn't have the battery. But how much do you leave it to go up with temp.? Just searching for Tjunc for the CPU of that MXQ Android TV... What chipset is it running? You should be able to find it using cpu-z app to see what safe operating temps are. It will probably throttle itself around 80C from what I have seen of other android devices. I think 80 is a little too high myself. The android box you mentioned from a google search looks like it could be easily opened. I would open it up and look to see if they have put an adequate heatsink on the chip. If not, add a heatsink, and if possible, maybe even a small USB powered fan to add active cooling. For the heatsink, I have found that there is a thermal glue that can be mixed like an epoxy and when dry the heatsink will hold solid against the chip as opposed to a thermal paste that would not hold it. Thanks, will think about opening it. Found the proc though: ARM Cortex A5...can't find data about the Tjunc though... |
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The technical reference manual does not list anything either. Try downloading cpu-z from the playstore and it should be more specific
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cristipurdel
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I have the amlogic S912 TV sticks (octa-core) and they throttle at around 80degC also.
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cristipurdel
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After a while, the amlogic S912 TV sticks start to throttle and need to reduce the cpu freq (0.63 GHz at 80 degC), basically making them badge hunters
----------------------------------------my new Best bang-for-the-buck Android device is: https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_j7_v-8778.php https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg...ad,40192_offset,40#600984 |
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After a while, the amlogic S912 TV sticks start to throttle and need to reduce the cpu freq (0.63 GHz at 80 degC), basically making them badge hunters my new Best bang-for-the-buck Android device is: https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_j7_v-8778.php https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg...ad,40192_offset,40#600984 Did you ever try opening the TV sticks? It looks like they are in two halves and the top could be taken off. At least from the pictures of TV sticks with that processor I found on a google search. Small heatsinks could be added with some thermal adhesive and may make a big difference. |
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