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Re: Work Now Available for Beta Test

We just got the work flowing and the test is now running. Congrats to Bearcat for returning the first result from the beta test with a workunit completed in an elapsed time of 198 seconds!!!!!


I feel lucky getting the 1st one completed. This was on a ATI 6950 with overdrive enabled but at it's lowest setting. Will have to play with the settings to see how much I can push it.
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Re: Work Now Available for Beta Test

I got one on my 2nd Gen i7 quad-core... I only have the built-in Intel graphics, no card. When BOINC starts up, I see the "No usable GPUs found" message... so why did I even get one of the Betas?

[Edit] Oh... It wasn't clear to me that there were CPU WU's in this Beta too... sorry about that!
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Re: Work Now Available for Beta Test

Probaply because it is a CPU beta and not a GPU beta. Both were issued today.
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Re: Work Now Available for Beta Test

Maybe this is another side effect of the GPU Beta restriction, but no matter what, my clients asks for 300,000 plus seconds and just gets 1 SN2S at the time and each subsequent time hitting thr update button:

4322 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 0:59:53 update requested by user
4323 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 0:59:57 [sched_op] Starting scheduler request
4324 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 0:59:57 Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
4325 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 0:59:57 Reporting 1 completed tasks, requesting new tasks for CPU
4326 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 0:59:57 [sched_op] CPU work request: 312591.65 seconds; 0.00 devices
4327 14-3-2012 1:00:00 Suspending file transfers - time of day
4328 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 1:00:02 Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
4329 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 1:00:02 [sched_op] Server version 700
4330 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 1:00:02 Project requested delay of 11 seconds
4331 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 1:00:02 [sched_op] estimated total CPU task duration: 29612 seconds
4332 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 1:00:02 [sched_op] handle_scheduler_reply(): got ack for task SN2S_AAF21679_0000034_0392_0
4333 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 1:00:02 [sched_op] Deferring communication for 11 sec
4334 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 1:00:02 [sched_op] Reason: requested by project
4335 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 1:01:11 [checkpoint] result SN2S_AAF21680_0000005_0401_1 checkpointed
4336 14-3-2012 1:03:13 Resuming file transfers
4337 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 1:03:13 Started download of SN2S_AAF21680_0000023_0881_SN2S_AAF21680_0000023_0881.job
4338 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 1:03:13 Started download of SN2S_AAF21680_0000023_0881_SN2S_AAF21680_0000023_0881.zip
4339 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 1:03:14 Finished download of SN2S_AAF21680_0000023_0881_SN2S_AAF21680_0000023_0881.job
4340 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 1:03:14 Finished download of SN2S_AAF21680_0000023_0881_SN2S_AAF21680_0000023_0881.zip
4341 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 1:03:24 update requested by user
4342 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 1:03:27 [sched_op] Starting scheduler request
4343 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 1:03:27 Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
4344 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 1:03:27 Requesting new tasks for CPU
4345 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 1:03:27 [sched_op] CPU work request: 283917.10 seconds; 0.00 devices
4346 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 1:03:28 [checkpoint] result SN2S_AAF21679_0000034_0632_0 checkpointed
4347 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 1:03:32 Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
4348 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 1:03:32 [sched_op] Server version 700
4349 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 1:03:32 Project requested delay of 11 seconds
4350 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 1:03:32 [sched_op] estimated total CPU task duration: 29612 seconds
4351 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 1:03:32 [sched_op] Deferring communication for 11 sec
4352 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 1:03:32 [sched_op] Reason: requested by project
4353 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 1:03:35 Started download of SN2S_AAF21680_0000024_1130_SN2S_AAF21680_0000024_1130.job
4354 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 1:03:35 Started download of SN2S_AAF21680_0000024_1130_SN2S_AAF21680_0000024_1130.zip
4355 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 1:03:37 Finished download of SN2S_AAF21680_0000024_1130_SN2S_AAF21680_0000024_1130.job
4356 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 1:03:37 Finished download of SN2S_AAF21680_0000024_1130_SN2S_AAF21680_0000024_1130.zip
4357 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 1:04:17 update requested by user
4358 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 1:04:18 [sched_op] Starting scheduler request
4359 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 1:04:18 Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
4360 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 1:04:18 Requesting new tasks for CPU
4361 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 1:04:18 [sched_op] CPU work request: 254035.00 seconds; 0.00 devices
4362 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 1:04:23 Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
4363 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 1:04:23 [sched_op] Server version 700
4364 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 1:04:23 Project requested delay of 11 seconds
4365 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 1:04:23 [sched_op] estimated total CPU task duration: 29612 seconds
4366 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 1:04:23 [sched_op] Deferring communication for 11 sec
4367 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 1:04:23 [sched_op] Reason: requested by project
4368 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 1:04:25 Started download of SN2S_AAF21680_0000024_0682_SN2S_AAF21680_0000024_0682.job
4369 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 1:04:25 Started download of SN2S_AAF21680_0000024_0682_SN2S_AAF21680_0000024_0682.zip
4370 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 1:04:27 Finished download of SN2S_AAF21680_0000024_0682_SN2S_AAF21680_0000024_0682.job
4371 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 1:04:27 Finished download of SN2S_AAF21680_0000024_0682_SN2S_AAF21680_0000024_0682.zip
4372 World Community Grid 14-3-2012 1:04:35 [checkpoint] result SN2S_AAF21680_0000005_0790_0 checkpointed

As it stands, not enough work ATM to let this machine run off-line for the night, so sorry techs, but I'll be spending a little hammering time to get the cache up.

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Re: Work Now Available for Beta Test

I allowed GPU while computer in use to get BETA_X0000131280849201112141247_2 using beta3 version 644 to start. I assume _2 means a re-send.
It then failed with:
14-Mar-2012 00:54:38 [World Community Grid] Starting task BETA_X0000131280849201112141247_2 using beta3 version 644
14-Mar-2012 00:54:41 [World Community Grid] [sched_op_debug] Deferring communication for 1 min 0 sec
14-Mar-2012 00:54:41 [World Community Grid] [sched_op_debug] Reason: Unrecoverable error for result BETA_X0000131280849201112141247_2 (All pipe instances are busy. (0xe7) - exit code 231 (0xe7))
14-Mar-2012 00:54:41 [World Community Grid] Computation for task BETA_X0000131280849201112141247_2 finished
I am unable to look at result status page as stats are running.
Machine specification:
13-Mar-2012 17:15:51 [---] Starting BOINC client version 6.10.58 for windows_x86_64
13-Mar-2012 17:15:51 [---] log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task, sched_op_debug
13-Mar-2012 17:15:51 [---] Libraries: libcurl/7.19.7 OpenSSL/0.9.8l zlib/1.2.3
13-Mar-2012 17:15:51 [---] Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
13-Mar-2012 17:15:51 [---] Running under account xxxxx
13-Mar-2012 17:15:51 [---] Processor: 8 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz [Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7]
13-Mar-2012 17:15:51 [---] Processor: 256.00 KB cache
13-Mar-2012 17:15:51 [---] Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 nx lm vmx tm2 popcnt aes pbe
13-Mar-2012 17:15:51 [---] OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Home Premium x64 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00)
13-Mar-2012 17:15:51 [---] Memory: 7.98 GB physical, 15.96 GB virtual
13-Mar-2012 17:15:51 [---] Disk: 469.38 GB total, 407.90 GB free
13-Mar-2012 17:15:51 [---] Local time is UTC +0 hours
13-Mar-2012 17:15:51 [---] ATI GPU 0: ATI Radeon HD5700 series (Juniper) (CAL version 1.4.1385, 1024MB, 1360 GFLOPS peak)
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Re: Work Now Available for HCC GPU Beta Test

Congrats to the techs for getting the HCC GPU betas underway, especially while they are still dealing with the aftermath of the server upgrade.

What is the intended credit allocation scheme for GPU work done?
If the same credit per WU is given to those crunched on GPUs as is given to those crunched on CPUs, the problem may arise that many members will concentrate on GPU work and the CPU resources allocated to projects that do not have GPU versions may decrease.
Although members' points tallies do get effectively depreciated over time as computers get faster, the introduction of GPGPU with such a credit scheme would make points tallies to date rather meaningless.
It would also seem to me to be unfair to members who choose not to participate in GPGPU, since if GPGPU is as highly productive as is promised, the computing resources needed to complete a CPU WU are far greater than for an equivalent WU on a GPU.

OTOH, if credit for GPU work was allocated according to the $$ costs of GPU hardware and the extra electricity used, determining these costs would be very difficult both immediately and over time.

I know that these issues have already been discussed somewhere, but I don't recall reading a definitive outcome. -- Link?
[Edit]: Just found informative recent post by knreed in nearby thread One wonders ....... (re. recent server upgrade).
"... we will start using the new credit system. The aim of the new system is to better measure the efficiency of different computers and different application versions so that computers are assigned credit in a more consistent way - even across different operating systems or cpu vs gpu."
I guess we'll see what The New Credit System comes up with ... [/Edit]

[Edit #2]: Also noted the appearance of a new forum in the Support section: GPU Support Forum
I expect we'll have some sticky posts there, eg types of GPU cards supported & their productivity & power consumption, instructions on how to set up and control GPU crunching, links to more information ...
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knreed, at Beta test for Help Conquer Cancer with GPU Application Versions : "There are only GPU versions available for Windows at this time."
Ambiguous. Implies that there are no CPU versions on Windows, and that there could be both types for the other OSes. Think he means "GPU versions are available only for Windows ..."
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Re: Work Now Available for Beta Test

Sorry Rickjb that I cannot find the link but there are now so many GPU threads it is almost impossible to find an individual post. However uplinger stated a couple of times in the past that it is WCG position that a wu is worth a set amount credits regardless of what it is run on. Run it on a cpu and get 30 credits, run it on a fast card and get 30 credits, run it on a slow card and get 30 credits. The difference of course is run time.

If it took 1 hour on a CPU then you would get 30 credits/hour/cpu thread. If it took 2 minutes on a GPU you could do 30/hour and you would get 900 credits/hour/GPU.

This did not work on the first group. I only got 3 but received 100 credits on two and 200 credits on one. After that Kevin posted that the 100-200 credits was an anomoly and they have subsequently got the credits down to 30 +/-.

Since this Beta appeared suddenly this morning with almost no information about how it works, I think all of us are just waiting for the next group and figuring it out as we go.

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Re: Work Now Available for Beta Test

I solved a HCC file in 4 minutes 30secons or so. it said 1.00 GPU 0.82 CPU.

the speed is amazing. normally it takes me almost 2 hours for a HCC file.

edit: at this speed, the world will be fixed by breakfast time. biggrin
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Re: Work Now Available for Beta Test

I got to be my own wingman on this one!


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Re: Work Now Available for Beta Test

Question for the techs.
I have 1 GPU WU on a machine that doesn't have an OpenCL supported card. It won't start and probably never will. Should I abort it or just wait for it to run past the time limit and be resent?
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