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Former Member
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The beta testing that is being run at the moment is quite unusual in that we know which projects are involved. Usually a beta test is for a new project and we don't know what it's for until the project becomes generally available. So it doesn't actually make sense to link the beta tick-box with any of the current projects.
Now, you could argue that "sizing" units we are seeing at the moment are neither fish nor fowl. But I think it was reasonable to issue them under the beta banner, rather than the project concerned, because they may run in odd ways (especially very long) and those who take an active part in betas are prepared to monitor tasks and report on anything unusual, which is exactly what the techs need. |
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astrolabe.
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The beta testing that is being run at the moment is quite unusual in that we know which projects are involved. Usually a beta test is for a new project and we don't know what it's for until the project becomes generally available Not true. We have seen the Techs run Betas on an existing project to verify changes to the application. |
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Movieman
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To all above who commented on my post;
----------------------------------------I understand totally. I had not participated in the Beta program before and was unaware that there were other beta programs besides the HCC GPU one. My mistake and Live and Learn as they say. I'll just stick to the cpu units until GPU WU are ready for "Prime time"  [Edit 3 times, last edit by Movieman at Mar 21, 2012 7:59:42 PM] |
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Coleslaw
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Movieman...I understand your pain. I'm always scrambling when new CEP2 BETA's occur because some of my systems crash with those but run fine on all other projects. I want them to do BETA, but not that one project. I just deal with it.
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Jim1348
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I'm always scrambling when new CEP2 BETA's occur because some of my systems crash with those but run fine on all other projects. I want them to do BETA, but not that one project. I just deal with it. Good point. I put the BOINC data folder on a Ramdisk, and set it at 512 MB for my dual-core, and 1024 MB for my quad-core. That way, I can do betas and still avoid CEP2, since it requires at least 2 GB free disk space before it will even download. (It is not that I don't like CEP2, but will wait until a new Ivy Bridge build before getting back into it.)[Edit 1 times, last edit by Jim1348 at Mar 22, 2012 1:50:21 AM] |
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mikey
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The time dear Sir, the time... 5 minutes (the credit is meant to match the CPU version fairly, long as only one X-Ray image is packaged in 1 task) :D If you'd use BOINCTasks you'd actually be able to track it back in the history where the application is shown that ran the test. --//-- You used an interesting set of words there..."X-Ray image", does that mean we are using our pc's to examine "X-Ray images"? Does mean that we COULD be looking at breast cancer "X-Ray images" looking for lumps etc? Does it also mean we COULD in the future look at other "X-Ray images" for tumors etc, etc, etc? I realize each unit is NOT a full x-ray and this is NOT a porno project! I am just thinking of the possibilities of our pc's helping with the mundane task of looking at "X-Ray images". LOTS of things get x-rayed, each needing a tech to physically look at them most showing exactly what they think it shows, but SOME showing much more, with a small subset of those being overlooked!   |
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Former Member
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The full description is X-Ray Crystallography. This examination actually damages the crystal target. Recently a paper was published how to minimize that damage. Crystallizations of whatever target are extremely hard to make [which itself can damage the target], so any way to preserving them is important.
----------------------------------------Picture this... once we have this huge library online for worldwide access, it becomes a case of sticking suspect cells from a biopsy into a scanner and run it against the database for fastest typing. Couple this typing to a knowledge database of best treatments and you'll have: 1. Flawless diagnostics [not the always failing eye of meds and lab techs] 2. Instant treatment plan within 24/48 hours and not many weeks/months later, when time is of the essence. --//-- [Edit 2 times, last edit by Former Member at Mar 22, 2012 1:49:20 PM] |
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mikey
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The full description is X-Ray Crystallography. This examination actually damages the crystal target. Recently a paper was published how to minimize that damage. Crystallizations of whatever target are extremely hard to make [which itself can damage the target], so any way to preserving them is important. Picture this... once we have this huge library online for worldwide access, it becomes a case of sticking suspect cells from a biopsy into a scanner and run it against the database for fastest typing. Couple this typing to a knowledge database of best treatments and you'll have: 1. Flawless diagnostics [not the always failing eye of meds and lab techs] 2. Instant treatment plan within 24/48 hours and not many weeks/months later, when time is of the essence. --//-- Thank you very much! |
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Richard Mitnick
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So, regarding the final aim of the project, if realized, does this obsolete the tissue bank developed by the Help Defeat Cancer project, a previous and successful WCG project at The Cancer Institute of New Jersey led by Dr Foran?
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Former Member
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Hello mitrichr,
So, regarding the final aim of the project, if realized, does this obsolete the tissue bank developed by the Help Defeat Cancer project, a previous and successful WCG project at The Cancer Institute of New Jersey led by Dr Foran? !! Not even close. HCC is working on proteins in order to help cancer research. Dr. Foran's HDC (Help Defeat Cancer) Project is developing part of a diagnostic tool to work on each patient with a suspected cancer. Do a biopsy, prepare a tissue sample, run the sample under a microscope with a digital camera on the other end, then have the computer program report on similar tissue samples -- malignant or benign, types of treatment with statistical outcomes, etc. This is not a Larry Niven autodoc in a SF novel but it is an expert system advising the patient's doctor.HDC is an applied project aimed at developing a tool to aid real cancer patients. HCC is a medical research project that is trying to advance our understanding of cancer and its treatment. Both are useful but HDC was more emotionally satisfying to me. Lawrence |
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