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KLiK
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Re: Badge for participation

I think a cumulative badge across all projects would help solve the problem. If you fall a few days short at one sub-project, the run time still accumulates towards your overall badge.

way ahead of you...check this topic:
https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread_thread,38434
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Re: Badge for participation

@KLiK: glad to see we're finally on the same page. Sure, it can be a "ghost" badge or whatever other color or fashion people agree on, just as long as it's there.

@theodolite: you're right: it's not a problem. It doesn't prevent me from sticking around and continue to crunch, as I have for the past 5 years or so. Also, I am not whining, I resent that remark. It reminisces the same condescending tone as astrolab used to take at the very beginning of this thread and that's not helping anyone.

Nobody's (or at least I'm not) expecting any freebies, nor am I making any demands. I was merely supporting a suggestion which I think it's nice to have. And please don't bother with the old "the techs have much bigger stuff to do" routine. We've all heard it. We all acknowledge it and know it's true. But that doesn't mean this cannot go through. Look at your own badges. You have nice numbers on them to show that you've donated 5 or 10 years to one given science. That suggestion was (also) made in this very thread. So, you see, even "petty" stuff like this can get to be implemented, if it gains enough momentum.

In short: I am not asking for badges for all the other 9 projects where I didn't contribute with anything. It was never about that. It's more about getting some recognition of the CPU time I've donated for projects which have completed before I could get to Bronze. It's also about (maybe) helping the new crunchers get some incentive almost right from the beginning, giving them a taste of the rewards.

So just because you may have a crunching farm at your disposal doesn't mean you get to look down on the rest of the crunchers on account of you being able to get to Bronze overnight while some (possibly many) need a fortnight which sometimes proves to be insufficient (for short projects).

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Re: Badge for participation

Quit whining.
That's not very nice. This is the "Suggestion" thread. The above are "suggestions". I see no issue with the "suggestion" that there be an initial badge after delivering your first WU (glass, stone, clay, whatever). It will probably help those people that become discouraged and quit crunching because they didn't receive any recognition after returning a few dozen of WUs.

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KLiK
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Re: Badge for participation

I see no issue with the "suggestion" that there be an initial badge after delivering your first WU (glass, stone, clay, whatever). It will probably help those people that become discouraged and quit crunching because they didn't receive any recognition after returning a few dozen of WUs.

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glass badge would fit nice to "see through badge with logo"...a name suits the purpose & describes it!

Like it!
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Re: Badge for participation

Quit whining.
That's not very nice. This is the "Suggestion" thread. The above are "suggestions"
I am not mocking the suggestion. I am merely giving feedback, again, on a 'suggestion' that I strongly disagree with.

Make your suggestion. Receive feedback. Leave it for WCG Admin to deal with. When you start over with the same suggestion again, that is whining. And it too is not nice.

Even just acknowledging a member who completes ONE WU is highly disrespectful to those of us who are contributing multiple completed WU EACH DAY. With projects that require millions of WU for completion, acknowledging this almost insignificant level of participation serves no purpose in completing a project. About as meaningful as a University professor giving a gold star to a student who did Tuesday's assignment. Embarrassing. IMHO
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KWSN-A Shrubbery
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Re: Badge for participation

So according to your reasoning, it's just as realistic to not issue a badge prior to one year's worth of work. After all, modern systems can crank that out in no time right?

Why reward people for simply 14 days, that's a pathetic contribution. Buckle down and earn a REAL badge.

I will never understand the motivation of people who refuse to allow the insignificant contributions to be acknowledged. It doesn't diminish your badges at all. It doesn't overly reward others either.

Look at the start of any project's initial badge recognition thread. Some people work for months to simply get to a bronze and they're thrilled when they do. Be happy for them.

Likewise, how does it harm you or anyone for that matter to recognize that someone is attempting to help on a project.

I started this thread to address very old and VERY short lived projects. I have over 23 hours in ACAH. Guess what? The cut off is 24 hours for a badge in that project. I have over 13 days in others back when there were not badges and people didn't know you had to specifically select only one sub-project to get something that didn't yet exist.

We crunched for WCG without recognition. We crunched whatever the system happened to throw our way, not for recognition but simply to advance a humanitarian cause.

With that in mind, you maybe understand my bewilderment at people who are not just openly hostile, but absolutely dismissive of an idea that only recognizes selfless volunteerism.

With WCG adding badges again and again after they swear they don't have the resources, can't do it, isn't technically feasible, or whatever, the argument becomes disingenuous. Just do it already and leave the vitriol at home.
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Re: Badge for participation

Quit whining.
That's not very nice. This is the "Suggestion" thread. The above are "suggestions"
I am not mocking the suggestion. I am merely giving feedback, again, on a 'suggestion' that I strongly disagree with.

Make your suggestion. Receive feedback. Leave it for WCG Admin to deal with. When you start over with the same suggestion again, that is whining. And it too is not nice.

Even just acknowledging a member who completes ONE WU is highly disrespectful to those of us who are contributing multiple completed WU EACH DAY. With projects that require millions of WU for completion, acknowledging this almost insignificant level of participation serves no purpose in completing a project. About as meaningful as a University professor giving a gold star to a student who did Tuesday's assignment. Embarrassing. IMHO

well, I really don't know how a "glassy see-through pale badge which acknowledges the participation in project without a real badge given" will be disrespectful to anyone's EMERALD, SAPPHIRE or DIAMOND badges?!
can you please elaborate more that...
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Re: Badge for participation

Quit whining.
That's not very nice. This is the "Suggestion" thread. The above are "suggestions"
I am not mocking the suggestion. I am merely giving feedback, again, on a 'suggestion' that I strongly disagree with.

Make your suggestion. Receive feedback. Leave it for WCG Admin to deal with. When you start over with the same suggestion again, that is whining. And it too is not nice.

Even just acknowledging a member who completes ONE WU is highly disrespectful to those of us who are contributing multiple completed WU EACH DAY. With projects that require millions of WU for completion, acknowledging this almost insignificant level of participation serves no purpose in completing a project. About as meaningful as a University professor giving a gold star to a student who did Tuesday's assignment. Embarrassing. IMHO

well, I really don't know how a "glassy see-through pale badge which acknowledges the participation in project without a real badge given" will be disrespectful to anyone's EMERALD, SAPPHIRE or DIAMOND badges?!
can you please elaborate more that...
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Some other endeavors give out certificates for participation, and then gold, silver or bronze if they win high achievements. I have one project with only 1 workunit returned as a test. Later, the computer crashed and the project ended, so that's all I could do with that one. The projects should encourage a little participation, like a glass badge with the logo to show that we got it to run. They don't care whether there are 10 people with 1000 years of work each or 10,000 people with just a few workunits returned. It gets the work done. I notice several members of my team that disappeared without doing anything. They must have gotten discouraged before they even got off of the ground.

One reason I am here is that I am trying to accomplish something real. I don't care to send $10 in the mail to some entity that just mails more letters wanting another $10.
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Re: Badge for participation

All woosh to me, the whole topic is. Those who don't post, can only see their contribution on the MC page where everything, even the single second is listed. Would anyone at glass level go brag about this on the social media pages... "I proudly present to have done 1 unit at WCG", even when it may have been invalid."

Frankly only very mildly interested about any bragging rights, no need to show them to me, but WCG techs could go just a little out of their way to add the feature [filling the empty blank space between member forum title and badges **], to show the points/results/time, not just at that top line 'Hi Joe Doe, welcome back... you've got N points' **, without having to go to the open Members Comparison so see.'

** Not the first time to propose this, and others probably did too, BICNR.

*** Why not tell members about their results and time count too in that top line and not have to navigate around to see, as you do your points literally on any WCG page.
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well, as no-one will use their time to do this...so my "novice" knowledge in manipulating pics gave me these:
https://imgur.com/a/VmfZT

program used, Paint.NET

any thoughts?!
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