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Re: Badge for participation

I crunched (calendar)years for Entropia and UD before I knew of WCG. After I knew of WCG, I delayed the transfer to Boinc. Hey, I didn't know "back then" these would shut down. There is no need to be recognised for not knowing the future.



Me too. So it goes. straight face
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Just noticed at another project that they've implemented badges, and our much nicer ones compared to a X-mas tree, but hey, they've got bronze, silver, gold, ruby, and pink, at least http://www.primegrid.com/forum_thread.php?id=1441&nowrap=true#17238 , which I've not bothered to figure out. For gold you need a million credit (7 million WCG points), no, different sub-projects have different levels, so their measure is not exactly "at a glance"

Before I could not bother above Sapphire, having trouble enough to get even these levels on all sciences [yes crazed too], but now with an octo added [for a much lower price than the old duo using more watts at that], suddenly it's an emerald per month... 6 sapphires per annum... and after, well, just crunching on till whenever the certificates come [the general badge of participation] to print / frame and put on the wall. Never not doing it for badges too [ liar ]... there's still that open space between member forum title and the badges to fill in smile

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Primegrid badges do differ between sub projects. The sieve projects require double the points for the same badges. I have also mentioned before that WCG should do similar badges as Primegrid because you can hover your mouse over the icon in the forums and see people's total contribution to each project. Seemed simple to me, but others seem to think this would be a drastic resource deterrence from project work or overhead to the servers.

Also don't forget that YoYo (http://www.rechenkraft.net/yoyo/) also has badges that are much harder to obtain and Enigma (http://www.enigmaathome.net/) is discussing adding badges as well.
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I only post about this every year or two :) So here goes.

Primegrid and Yoyo@Home have a separate table which contains the credit a user/team has attained at each individual subproject/app within their project, splitting the overall contribution up. They then produce some extra xml files in addition to the standard BOINC server code ones which contains this subproject data for the 3rd Party stats sites to download and parse. I do this for those two projects at Free-DC. It then gives us the ability to show the badges externally given we know the credit criteria from that xml.

With the data in one file and only file only one file, it also reduces the bandwidth on the server. At the moment (I believe) the only way to get this data is for an individual call per user on the server. No way to do it for everyone and the more people who want to do it currently the higher the bandwidth cost becomes.

So, perhaps it's time once again that WCG could possibly look into producing this type of subproject xml data so we, the 3rd party stats sites can parse it and show the data and badges externally.

I would dearly love to get some kind of formal code into the BOINC base code personally and would love WCG to pioneer this.

GPUGrid are also going to implement badges, though it looks like mainly just in overall credit so no separate feed would be necessary.

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Bok, the sig as produced by SNURK accesses a file that already has all badge levels per user included. See my sig for the ''dna'' representation. Think it's user.gz where he pulls this from.**

The discussion where it was left off, was publishing the actual values per science [not to confuse with project, which WCG as a whole is to BOINC]

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edit: ** Mistake... not in user.gz, so maybe still does a per-user pull.
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I think perhaps he gets the overall credit from the user.gz but not the badges, they must be a per user pull and I don't think it would be wise to do 370000+ wgets :)
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He does manual sig builds.

If you are interested in something like this,


you could ask seti-germany.de how they do it,
http://www.seti-germany.de/wcg/badge_Bok7575_0.png

To get the credit per project per user you would still need a tech to setup an export...
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I think perhaps he gets the overall credit from the user.gz but not the badges, they must be a per user pull and I don't think it would be wise to do 370000+ wgets :)

True, I get the badges from individual xml files. Also the country ranking (x3) and the team ranking (x3) need to be sifted from ranking files (xml for teams, html* for countries).
So even though I have a caching mechanism that never pulls a ranking file twice, I am still raking in around 3000 files (160MB) for the 570 signatures. Daily that is.

* Trying to get those in xml here
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Would it be easier if I provided that data for you from free-dc? I could produce a simple csv after each data run. I update the data pretty much as soon as it's available..
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Hi Bok7575,

That's odd, I thought you were the one telling us just 6 posts ago that you don't have this data. confused
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