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Re: Not sure how much longer they will be able to keep crunching in the UK

retsof, I loved that about the rock. Excellent. laughing
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Here's a different meter, rather meters, from space who give could not care less about UK weather driven by a AO -3.41 index. The Title

UAH & RSS: January was a scorcher!



Those 2 dots top right at end of the dotted lines is what the lower troposphere was on average for January... hotter than the AMSU initial indicator of 0.662C
Roy Spencer posted the UAH January Anomaly for the lower troposphere: +0.72 Deg! Chicago was cold, but the globe was hot, hot, hot! The graph above shows the temperature anomalies in the satellite records for both RSS and UAH, I’ve highlighted all January readings with outlines, and also show a dashed line at the this month’s level. This is the hottest January in the satellite record. For comparison, I show the multi-model mean projections for the surface temperatures from models forced using the A1B scenario. (Surface temperatures differ from temperature of the lower troposphere, but are useful for reference). The current temperatures as “weather” lie well above the multi-model mean if temperature projected using the A1B scenarios, but the least squares trend through data in the record lies below the multi-model mean trend.


Now how can that be with that solar minimum? Oh wait, we saw 13.1 sunspots kicking it up ways above anything we've seen before even when there were 155... or of course, what else, those are wrong too, the sats. Prepare for what GISTEMP will show from the ground up (different baseline due longer available history).
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Whilst we have a never seen before early huff and puff and the UK has a cold/snow period not experienced in decades, the crunchers there better protect their PC cabling as it seems vermin that lives off the trash is moving into urbanized areas/cities and into homes! RentoKill will be having boomer days.

PS: There's a new website as the Dutch need urgent help:
www.roadsalt4holland.co.uk .
They are having major black ice problems [saw this whilst zapping through the foreign channels]. An average 500 people per day are coming to ER due unwanted falls... 15,000 since the snow period started in December.
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If may be cold in the UK, the 2 most important barometers of our planet state indicate it's not as cold as it should be, there where humans do not live and build up to cause UHI influences in the surroundings. If one sums the measurement of that 2 barometer, speak the 2 polar regions, we note that in the month before the respective opposite minimum (Antarctic) and maximum (Arctic), the total is not indicative of any post-2007 recovery to speak of... trend down.



See the divergence of that praised Sea Ice extent [marked Water] which is reported by e.g. Jaxa and Sea Ice Area, the real stuff. That's a sign none-homogeneous/broken up sea ice. We read of expeditions to the Beaufort Sea where supposed multi year Ice is found to be utterly rotten and of an Ice Breaker that was doing 25 km an hour in MYI regions... because the ice was cake thin. How come?

Global cooling, well global climate shifts I'd agree to, for that's part of the process... more extremes though between the 2 of them. February 5 and yesterday saw a tree on the other side of the hill that's already 75% into it's summer foliage. That's not weather... that's climate. It's officially winter still, per the meteorological calendar.

PS: The title of the chart should read 1979-2010. Will fix it when February data is in.
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East US hammered by record levels of snow fall [due large amounts of vapor rich air meeting cold air pushed out from the Arctic that is replacing it there with warm air] todays header on Reuters:

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Scant ice over the Arctic Sea this winter could mean a "double whammy" of powerful ice-melt next summer, a top U.S. climate scientist said on Thursday.

Solar minimum, we're barely out and into cycle 24, we need to hold on to our sombreros as Judith Lean wrote in to say that that 0.24 Watts/M^2 net ground level increase was allot if you add it up on global scale. Judith makes no mention of that 1.6 Watts+/M^2 that the GHG's [CO2 from 280 to 388 ppmv in 160 years] and ozone layer thinning have added on a permanent basis. Is that why the temperatures have stayed flat instead of lowered whilst the sun took a long break from throttling up it's usual 0.1%?

Yes, trees grow faster, and wheat does so too, but latter has a per-unit 8% reduced nutritious value. We can of course eat more... and start to look like michelin men. Evolution it's called, formally in length, but now in width.

PS: For non-French, a michelin man looks like this:



Waving you into have a good weekend :D
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In case anyone is worried about me--i have been gone awhile--so everything is OK--it seems to me that here in the mid Atlantic coast we are having winters like back in the 60s and 70s so i think it goes in cycles--that is the climather wink ---and i see some of you have been BAD BOYS
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Morning all

(I know it's weather but...)


I wonder what the Washingtonian's think about the presence or otherwise of Man Made Global Warming this morning?


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...2/07/AR2010020700485.html

It usually crosses the Atlantic in under 2 weeks worried


wink

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p.s. Whl thank you smile
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Seing David Autumns on the board, hallo Dave, the sun dialed in 24 months ago, to say it would be coming back asking other heat sources to keep it up after last extended La Nina... CO2 still growing, it's 15 uM and other sidebands and harmonies slowly but steadily keeping warmth up and in, and the oceans having been doing their job of filling the gap, with new records, all time, positive temp anomalies [which we deem to be having a negative effect on all that lives on the planet]. This one is called ENSO, with SOI as a measure of where we will be in the next 6 months, at least.



The people of Peru have been experiencing El Nino badly... their major glacier melting like heck... thousands years old and the former supplier of steady water for the 9 million people in the capital Lima, surrounded by desert.

Following The Beagle program (don't know if aunt Beeb propagates] is very educating [mostly English spoken]. Sarah Darwin is on board to retrace the steps of Charles, her great grandfather. The sailing ship went through a zone of thousands of km of utterly dead ocean off the South American Pacific coast... not a fish to catch. The Peruvians know and they know and see their glazier diminishing rapidly [photographic proof by amateurs so definitely deniable by Lord Monckton and his lot], then being subjected to extreme weather in the past weeks, flooded by abnormal/severe rains requiring many evacuations, of the tourists of course.

Yes the climate is changing and not evenly. Mostly unevenly for those in the poorer parts of the world. I hope the snow, a result of vapor rich air meeting cold air keeps it for some nice and cool, very cool. Not in Vancouver where's it's been 9C and more in past weeks... the Olympic slopes looking bare.

Yes, my our cherry tree is in blossom. It's weather, persistent weather, which then is called [micro] climate... it's abnormally changing, and historically fast.

It's another Sunday where my/our weather has not been normal at all even by approximation... the Adriatic is too warm, hence snow cannot form in the lower altitudes. We need it to kill out the bugs eggs. Glad the whole house now has all round antizanzare screens. Malaria and Dengue and other mosquito transported deceases are spreading north again. Deceases, for that's what those illnesses cause and no grab that pill cures readily available, except lariam that eats your liver and causes hallucinations after a months of use.

It's very hard to comprehend if it does not fit the expectation... and absolutely no-one there to correct it with force, no-one.
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I stumbled over this

It illustrates a point I keep trying to make more effectively than anything I have been able to put together so far

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBO2IstMi2A


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