Just for fun I fished up David Autumns 4 bar chart which was presented to demonstrate the rather fast effect of solar impact in cooling when going into minimum [from the copy I made of that 7336 post long missing thread]. I've plugged in 9 months of HADCRUT3v, and we're almost back to the 2005 HADCRU record... and at that point still deeply in that solar minimum. David Autumns never explained this phenomena. Could he now please?



Yes, I think we know enough: It's Homo Sapiens Sapiens as main culprit. Dr. Roy (Spencer) also knows, though he's got trouble expressing it in clear words that the less ignorant can comprehend. Did the sun dial up Earth to say that we needed to pre-warm the planet, so we can have a RECORD in 2010... just like that?

Snow was normal, Arctic Sea Ice is substantially below, trailing along the 2007 record low line... oh and the Finish are begging the nine nations on the Baltic to help clean up one of most polluted seas on the planet. Fancy some fish with with heavy metal toxins? Yes We Did, Yes We Can.

Eso cop for this


http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/tech-...aused-by-global-qwarmingq


Dave

PS, Dr. Roy has not circled that 2009/2010 as El Niño... has he, an expert on global climate mechanics got doubts? It's a rather moderate SOI state so I'm reading, thus where's that heat coming from David Authumns?

The chart to go with that:



Now, how about the 2005 RECORD correlation to an El Niño state, a moderate one too? Does it read like that?

The sun being a constant is an oxymoron of course... it fluxes slightly [<0.1%], this it is a constant, and thanks to sun spots more UV is coming through, because we damaged to ozone layer to add, and we're still damaging it by the CFK replacements... we know because of science.

Dress warm there up north, and still wear a hat and put on sunblock, for you will get skin damage. People that ski in Aviemore and Glenshee will know about that! Skin Cancer up 46% in just 7 years: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-517...ent-just-seven-years.html

How come... is that because science is failing?

Sek you are deliberately ignoring what I said

Yes the cooling seen in that graph is on account of the waning Sun and the spike seen last year was on account of the El Nino just like the spike in 1998

Now if you won't let me claim that the Globe has cooled since 1998 as 1998 was an anomalous year then please don't try to make out that the warming seen in 2009 is part of an upwards trend in a similarly anomalous year

Yes we should minimise our use of fossil fuels wherever possible using renewables such as wave, wind, hydroelectric, river, geothermal, solar and reduce our impact on the planet as much as is technically possible throughout our lives and if that was all that this subject entailed then I am with you as much as the next man.

Unfortunately, as well you know, it isn't

Dave

What is happening everywhere?

An unfolding Man Made Climate Catastrophe that will wipe us from the surface of the Earth because the atmosphere is now 0.0388% CO2 and increasing at the rate of 0.0001% per year or maybe 0.0002% on an El Nino year when the Oceans warm and outgas that bit more CO2 than usual.

Come back to reality man. Let's not spin the data further than it is worthy.

I am not the one in need of waking up


Dave