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Re: Not sure how much longer they will be able to keep crunching in the UK

Some of the comments posted at the end of that article were very informative.
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Whilst Roy Spencer might want to wait another 30 years before his mind will want to believe what his eyes have been telling it for a long time, the IARC-JAXA record ''finally'' broke through the 9 million ''remaining'' extent for the Arctic, 4 days later than 2010, but looking at the long and short trend, not exactly a global cooling recovery.



BTW, ''finally'' was done in a stately fashion by loosing 150,000 km square in 1 day. Only in the record year 2007 did we see this, except maybe the Roy Spencers.

JAXA BTW also publishes an actual Area sea ice [the real square km left, not the extent held withIN the outer rim of the broken up ice, "rotten" is the in situ observation].



There is this odd stalling for multiple years of the melt right above the 8 million line and yet to determine if they forgot to correct for melt-pond distortions, as I asked them to investigate few years ago by email [yes I did]... and they confirmed back they'd do [and done] for extent. Let's see what they say about this... nobody is perfect.

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NPR : Manhattan To Drown Soon “This mean that both Greenland and Antarctica are probably going to melt faster than the scientific community previously thought,” co-author Jonathan T. Overpeck said in a statement.---- http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2011/07/03/npr-manhattan-to-drown-soon/
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It was the warmest day of the year yesterday

Ice melts when it is warm

Let him have his fun

The volume of scaremongering increases with temperature

http://91.192.194.209/averagehourlytemp3.png

there's direct a correlation there wink

Let's stick some reality here

The difference, according to Hadley Climate Research Unit, from the 1960 to 1991 average temperature for May was 0.322C (Down from 0.516C the previous May - so the heat from the Sun escaped somehow)

Less than 1/3 of 1 degree C - that is the worse case they can come up with

At the pole the temperature is right about normal

http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/meant80n.uk.php


so....

Let the personal insults and the WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE shrieks continue

It won't last
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Sek it was a link to a beautiful piece of Sheryl Crow poetry called Wildflower but maybe you missed it as you tried to trample me down


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Whilst every cubic meter of ocean sampled in the top hundreds of meters contains plastic particles, and anything living in it ingesting those too, whilst plastic floats the size of France and Spain drift in the middle of the Pacific and the Atlantic shows similar, puny man, albeit 7 billion of them, has forced in the Anthropocene.

Meantime a preview of the next Arctic Sea Ice Extent hurdle at 8 Million.



And should one wonder why there is a multi-day difference between JAXA and NSIDC figures in the overlap period, I've added a footnote WHY that is for the largest reason... some are happy with ''close enough'' accuracy, and it's fine long as consistent.

Happy 4th of July to those who observe this day

The truth is out there although some will work hard for it not to.

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(One of 7 billion who do work hard to segregate home waist into 7 different bins for maximum recycling possibility... organic, plastic, paper, glass, metal, chemical, other)

PS, of course, all is "normal"... Saturday 150,000 km square disappeared and yesterday... prelim indicates another 177,188 km^2, per JAXA. Better not extrapolate that as the winds and the clouds could change... whilst the ocean surface layer continues to be melting from the bottom of the remaining ice-covers.

Everything is ''normal'' ... yeah right.
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600*600 I wonder who that Forum Rule applies to?

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And more on man's great achievement in plastic... Planet 100 ... maybe they could have named it Planet 101. She mentions there are 5 floats [vortices] where these oil products with all their chemical components collect.

Now how is that... 5% of the world population using 30% of world resources and producing 30% of the waste? Something is not right, and once the other 95% catches up in this behavior, we'll be needing 3-4 planet Earths to supply us. There's a study out there on the next 30 years war coming at us... the time it will need to convert our bad habits to more sustainable.

Food for thought, for which we might allot a little time too on the 4th of July.

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There's a study out there on the next 30 years war coming at us... the time it will need to convert our bad habits to more sustainable.
That was a good article--but it does not consider the possibility of a nuclear war that i suspect will occur in the middle east--make no mistake there will be a catastrophic event involving Iran unless there is a leadership change
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You mustn't believe the lies of the Green zealots. And I should know - I was one


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-20109...-I-one.html#ixzz1R95H6bhj
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