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Dataman
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Remember the problems DM had with his IBuyPower not to mention the bright blue "seachlight" on it? The machine is great but I still think the company sucks! BTW: I'm glad you did not recommend looking at Crapway.    [Edit 1 times, last edit by Dataman at Apr 18, 2009 2:27:50 AM] |
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Here's an attempt to build an Ibuypower for less than 1500: Case ( CoolerMaster CM 690 Gaming Tower Case w/420W Power Supply Black ) Case Lighting ( None ) Power Supply ( 650 Watt -- Corsair CMPSU-650TX Power Supply SLI Ready ) Processor ( [New !!] Intel Core i7 Processor 920 (4x 2.66GHz/8MB L3 Cache) ) Processor Cooling ( XIGMATEK Dark Knight 120mm CPU Cooling Fan System H.D.T. (Heat-pipe direct touch) technology ) Motherboard ( Asus P6T Deluxe V2 Intel X58 Chipset CrossFire and SLI Supported w/7.1 Sound, Triple-Channel DDR3, Dual Gb LAN, S-ATA Raid, USB 2.0, Three PCI-E MB ) Memory ( 6 GB [2 GB X3] DDR3-1600 Triple Memory Module Corsair or Major Brand ) Video Card ( NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 896MB w/DVI + TV Out Video ) Video Card Brand ( Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA ) Hard Drive ( 1 TB HARD DRIVE [Serial-ATA-II, 3Gb, 7200 RPM, 16M Cache] ) 2nd Hard Drive ( None ) External Hard Drives [USB 2.0/eSATA] ( None ) CD/DVD Drive ( None ) CD-RW/DVD-RW Drive ( [** Special !!! ***] LG 22X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive Black ) Sound Card ( 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard ) Speaker System ( None ) Network Card ( Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100) ) Floppy Drive ( None ) Monitor ( None ) 2nd Monitor ( None ) Keyboard ( iBUYPOWER USB Keyboard w/ 18 Internet Hot /Multimedia Keys Black ) Mouse ( iBUYPOWER 1600 dpi High Sensitivity Internet Mouse Black ) USB 2.0 Accessories ( Built-in USB 2.0 Ports ) Meter Display ( None ) Flash Media Reader/Writer ( None ) Operating System ( Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium + [Free 60-Day !!!] Microsoft Office 2007(Word, Excel, Outlook, PowerPoint, Access ....) 32-Bit ) USB Flash Drive ( None ) MP3 Player ( None ) Video Camera ( None ) Headset ( None ) Power Protection ( None ) Warranty ( Warranty Service Standard 3-Year Limited Warranty + Lifetime Technical Support ) Rush Service ( Rush Service Fee (not shipping fee) No Rush Service, Estimate Ship Out in 5~10 Business Days ) Sub Total: $1,478.00 Current Coupon: None or you entered an invalid coupon. Please select your country: USCanada Ship To: Shipping Method: * Fedex Express Saver -- 3-4 BUSINESS DAYS Delivery Service. * Fedex 2 Day -- 2 BUSINESS DAYS Delivery Service. * Fedex Standard Overnight -- Overnight (Afternoon) Delivery Service. * Fedex or UPS Ground -- 5 to 7 DAY Service Depending on STATE * For HI, AK customers, we only provide Fedex 2 days Service. Total: USD $1,478.00 NOTE: NVidia 260 GTX Core 216 Graphics Intel I7 processor Reasonable Heatsink and power supply (thanx Blizzie for the tip on the PSes) Rip off.. I can do way better than that. I'm looking at Prolimatech Megahalems. http://www.jab-tech.com/Prolimatech-Megahalems-CPU-Cooler-775-1366-pr-4428.html Guys, keep in mind who this if for. Dr. Mike is not the computer geek like you guys. He would probably fare best long-term with something pre-built from one of the major makers that is maybe high-end stock and is going to be solid and reliable with at least good support in the eventual case of it being needed. He doesn't need the screaming bleeding edge. With a desktop, one thing to keep in mind is making sure that you have some extra expansion slots (at least a couple). Adding a wireless adapter card will most likely use one. Down the road when he wants to get a bit adventureous, he can add the GPU card. Remember the problems DM had with his IBuyPower not to mention the bright blue "seachlight" on it? Dr. Mike, for reliability, you'll do well with Apple or Lenovo. Dell is getting it back together too. The folks with the best desktops aren't going to always have the best laptops either. Stay away from Gateway. Looking at the latest from Consumer Reports, for desktops, Apple, Dell and Lenovo were the best on combined value and reliability. For $1500, you should be able to get a nice desktop for what you want to do. As for the monitor, I was pointed at Acer. Got a nice 17 inch (or is it 19?, it's big) for 150-175 from Tiger. Late last summer when I bought the desktop for my daughter, C2Ds were common but I upgraded to the quad CPU for about $100 or so. It seems like quads are the norm now so maybe someone has an option to upgrade to the i7? With the $500 you'll have left, you can use 40-50 on the wireless adapter card, 100 on a decent all-in-one printer/scanner/copier/fax (150 if you want the printer wireless too) and a bit to spare on a longer warranty or some extra software you want. Also, warranty-wise, laptops tend to require that they get shipped back to the manufacturer for service or you can try one of the independent service places that is part of their warranty network. With desktops, you can easily get on-site warranty support so they come to you. Beyond 9-5 will cost more but for your use, 9-5 should be more that fine. No need for 24x7. If you got a quad instead of an i7 machine, I would say that you could save a few hundred dollars and reinvest that money into graphics. GPU crunching is the wave of the future and even WCG is coming around to that. |
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Here's an attempt to build an Ibuypower for less than 1500: Case ( CoolerMaster CM 690 Gaming Tower Case w/420W Power Supply Black ) Case Lighting ( None ) Power Supply ( 650 Watt -- Corsair CMPSU-650TX Power Supply SLI Ready ) Processor ( [New !!] Intel Core i7 Processor 920 (4x 2.66GHz/8MB L3 Cache) ) Processor Cooling ( XIGMATEK Dark Knight 120mm CPU Cooling Fan System H.D.T. (Heat-pipe direct touch) technology ) Motherboard ( Asus P6T Deluxe V2 Intel X58 Chipset CrossFire and SLI Supported w/7.1 Sound, Triple-Channel DDR3, Dual Gb LAN, S-ATA Raid, USB 2.0, Three PCI-E MB ) Memory ( 6 GB [2 GB X3] DDR3-1600 Triple Memory Module Corsair or Major Brand ) Video Card ( NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 896MB w/DVI + TV Out Video ) Video Card Brand ( Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA ) Hard Drive ( 1 TB HARD DRIVE [Serial-ATA-II, 3Gb, 7200 RPM, 16M Cache] ) 2nd Hard Drive ( None ) External Hard Drives [USB 2.0/eSATA] ( None ) CD/DVD Drive ( None ) CD-RW/DVD-RW Drive ( [** Special !!! ***] LG 22X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive Black ) Sound Card ( 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard ) Speaker System ( None ) Network Card ( Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100) ) Floppy Drive ( None ) Monitor ( None ) 2nd Monitor ( None ) Keyboard ( iBUYPOWER USB Keyboard w/ 18 Internet Hot /Multimedia Keys Black ) Mouse ( iBUYPOWER 1600 dpi High Sensitivity Internet Mouse Black ) USB 2.0 Accessories ( Built-in USB 2.0 Ports ) Meter Display ( None ) Flash Media Reader/Writer ( None ) Operating System ( Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium + [Free 60-Day !!!] Microsoft Office 2007(Word, Excel, Outlook, PowerPoint, Access ....) 32-Bit ) USB Flash Drive ( None ) MP3 Player ( None ) Video Camera ( None ) Headset ( None ) Power Protection ( None ) Warranty ( Warranty Service Standard 3-Year Limited Warranty + Lifetime Technical Support ) Rush Service ( Rush Service Fee (not shipping fee) No Rush Service, Estimate Ship Out in 5~10 Business Days ) Sub Total: $1,478.00 Current Coupon: None or you entered an invalid coupon. Please select your country: USCanada Ship To: Shipping Method: * Fedex Express Saver -- 3-4 BUSINESS DAYS Delivery Service. * Fedex 2 Day -- 2 BUSINESS DAYS Delivery Service. * Fedex Standard Overnight -- Overnight (Afternoon) Delivery Service. * Fedex or UPS Ground -- 5 to 7 DAY Service Depending on STATE * For HI, AK customers, we only provide Fedex 2 days Service. Total: USD $1,478.00 NOTE: NVidia 260 GTX Core 216 Graphics Intel I7 processor Reasonable Heatsink and power supply (thanx Blizzie for the tip on the PSes) Rip off.. I can do way better than that. I'm looking at Prolimatech Megahalems. http://www.jab-tech.com/Prolimatech-Megahalems-CPU-Cooler-775-1366-pr-4428.html Guys, keep in mind who this if for. Dr. Mike is not the computer geek like you guys. He would probably fare best long-term with something pre-built from one of the major makers that is maybe high-end stock and is going to be solid and reliable with at least good support in the eventual case of it being needed. He doesn't need the screaming bleeding edge. With a desktop, one thing to keep in mind is making sure that you have some extra expansion slots (at least a couple). Adding a wireless adapter card will most likely use one. Down the road when he wants to get a bit adventureous, he can add the GPU card. Remember the problems DM had with his IBuyPower not to mention the bright blue "seachlight" on it? Dr. Mike, for reliability, you'll do well with Apple or Lenovo. Dell is getting it back together too. The folks with the best desktops aren't going to always have the best laptops either. Stay away from Gateway. Looking at the latest from Consumer Reports, for desktops, Apple, Dell and Lenovo were the best on combined value and reliability. For $1500, you should be able to get a nice desktop for what you want to do. As for the monitor, I was pointed at Acer. Got a nice 17 inch (or is it 19?, it's big) for 150-175 from Tiger. Late last summer when I bought the desktop for my daughter, C2Ds were common but I upgraded to the quad CPU for about $100 or so. It seems like quads are the norm now so maybe someone has an option to upgrade to the i7? With the $500 you'll have left, you can use 40-50 on the wireless adapter card, 100 on a decent all-in-one printer/scanner/copier/fax (150 if you want the printer wireless too) and a bit to spare on a longer warranty or some extra software you want. Also, warranty-wise, laptops tend to require that they get shipped back to the manufacturer for service or you can try one of the independent service places that is part of their warranty network. With desktops, you can easily get on-site warranty support so they come to you. Beyond 9-5 will cost more but for your use, 9-5 should be more that fine. No need for 24x7. If you got a quad instead of an i7 machine, I would say that you could save a few hundred dollars and reinvest that money into graphics. GPU crunching is the wave of the future and even WCG is coming around to that. If his budget is $2k.. he'll have 3 260s already? What do you want to give him 3 285s? |
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RT
Master Cruncher USA - Texas - DFW Joined: Dec 22, 2004 Post Count: 2636 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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clip clip clip If you got a quad instead of an i7 machine, I would say that you could save a few hundred dollars and reinvest that money into graphics. GPU crunching is the wave of the future and even WCG is coming around to that. I must have missed something. Is there word about GPU crunching at WCG? Also, I suggested a Dell Studio XPS with and I7, 3 Gigs etc for just over a grand. I have been running one of these for 3-4 months and it is a real heavy producer for WCG running 8 WUs at once. |
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Can Windows Server 2008 crunch (WCG and GPUGrid)?
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clip clip clip If you got a quad instead of an i7 machine, I would say that you could save a few hundred dollars and reinvest that money into graphics. GPU crunching is the wave of the future and even WCG is coming around to that. I must have missed something. Is there word about GPU crunching at WCG? Also, I suggested a Dell Studio XPS with and I7, 3 Gigs etc for just over a grand. I have been running one of these for 3-4 months and it is a real heavy producer for WCG running 8 WUs at once. I think that the WCG has to be thinking very seriously about GPU crunching! |
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Dataman
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Can Windows Server 2008 crunch (WCG and GPUGrid)? If I remember correctly, it will do WCG but I don't think it will do GPUGrid. You could post a question there. Morning. 81F today ... so much for spring.   |
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RT
Master Cruncher USA - Texas - DFW Joined: Dec 22, 2004 Post Count: 2636 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Welcome gr8Budah! Stop by and leave a comment or 3. Glad to have you aboard!
----------------------------------------Oh.. and someone said somthing that made me think that they did not know an i7 was a quad. It is; It has Hyper-Threading technology so that it effectively runs more than 4 tasks at a time. Experience has shown me that I need to keep 8 tasks running to ensure that all the processing power is being used up. It has the stock cooler ....and stock everything and runs just fine. Dr. Mike: I hate to sound like a commercial for Dell. I love their computers and have told them many times that I buy their stuff in spite of their "support" (which is a cruel joke at best). Anyway, check THIS out. |
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Welcome gr8Budah! Stop by and leave a comment or 3. Glad to have you aboard! Oh.. and someone said somthing that made me think that they did not know an i7 was a quad. It is; It has Hyper-Threading technology so that it effectively runs more than 4 tasks at a time. Experience has shown me that I need to keep 8 tasks running to ensure that all the processing power is being used up. It has the stock cooler ....and stock everything and runs just fine. Dr. Mike: I hate to sound like a commercial for Dell. I love their computers and have told them many times that I buy their stuff in spite of their "support" (which is a cruel joke at best). Anyway, check THIS out. [commercial]I too am pretty pleased with Dell products. Mine are older, but I have both a Dell Laptop and Desktop (Core2 Duos) that I bought 2 to 2 1/2 years ago that I have had no problems with. Both have run at 100% 24/7 since I got them.[/commercial] |
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Welcome gr8Budah! Stop by and leave a comment or 3. Glad to have you aboard! Oh.. and someone said somthing that made me think that they did not know an i7 was a quad. It is; It has Hyper-Threading technology so that it effectively runs more than 4 tasks at a time. Experience has shown me that I need to keep 8 tasks running to ensure that all the processing power is being used up. It has the stock cooler ....and stock everything and runs just fine. Dr. Mike: I hate to sound like a commercial for Dell. I love their computers and have told them many times that I buy their stuff in spite of their "support" (which is a cruel joke at best). Anyway, check THIS out. [commercial]I too am pretty pleased with Dell products. Mine are older, but I have both a Dell Laptop and Desktop (Core2 Duos) that I bought 2 to 2 1/2 years ago that I have had no problems with. Both have run at 100% 24/7 since I got them.[/commercial] That's so funny. I have personally had appallingly bad luck with Dells. I switched to Ibuypower and never looked back. My first two Dells arrived from Dell with issues, Windows crashing after owning the pc for two days, I went through like 6 cd drives. Also, my parents have had mixed experience with Dell laptops, but report that their newest Dell lappie isn't half bad. |
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