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I've had 15 error so far, 13 have run the full 8 hours. Will I get credit for the 13 that ran for 8 hours? sad


Yes you will get credit as long as they validate, and I imagine they will. We have seen one batch validate so far, we are awaiting more batches to have a quorum which may start soon.

-Uplinger

Uplinger, I think he's saying that they have completed succesfully but due to the data upload size problem they have been shown as Error in the results status (as have around 30+ of mine sad ) - I would imagine that they are highly unlikely to change status to Valid.

In these circumstances where we are not at fault, it was down to the data sizing, and they have sucessfully completed the 8 hours - are we likely to see a retrospective grant of credit, as I would imagine many of us have suffered through no fault of our own?
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I've had 15 error so far, 13 have run the full 8 hours. Will I get credit for the 13 that ran for 8 hours? sad


Yes you will get credit as long as they validate, and I imagine they will. We have seen one batch validate so far, we are awaiting more batches to have a quorum which may start soon.

-Uplinger

Uplinger, I think he's saying that they have completed succesfully but due to the data upload size problem they have been shown as Error in the results status (as have around 30+ of mine sad ) - I would imagine that they are highly unlikely to change status to Valid.

In these circumstances where we are not at fault, it was down to the data sizing, and they have sucessfully completed the 8 hours - are we likely to see a retrospective grant of credit, as I would imagine many of us have suffered through no fault of our own?


yes, what Addywebb said.
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I've had 15 error so far, 13 have run the full 8 hours. Will I get credit for the 13 that ran for 8 hours? sad


Yes you will get credit as long as they validate, and I imagine they will. We have seen one batch validate so far, we are awaiting more batches to have a quorum which may start soon.

-Uplinger

Uplinger, I think he's saying that they have completed succesfully but due to the data upload size problem they have been shown as Error in the results status (as have around 30+ of mine sad ) - I would imagine that they are highly unlikely to change status to Valid.

In these circumstances where we are not at fault, it was down to the data sizing, and they have sucessfully completed the 8 hours - are we likely to see a retrospective grant of credit, as I would imagine many of us have suffered through no fault of our own?


yes, what Addywebb said.


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Hello,

I'm going to get away from the quotes. But I did read what you wrote incorrectly. But, I don't believe we can do anything about the errors due to the file sizes. I have asked the question to knreed who has more expertise in this and I am awaiting his response. When I hear back from him I'll let everyone know or he may give a post himself. I am sorry for this we did not experience these large files in beta and scaled the limit based on what was returned during beta.

Thank you for your patience and assistance in fixing the application,
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Thanks for the response, I would only add that I have lost over 300hrs computing time on this in my case, so its not exactly a small thing - however I do understand that these things happen and I'm pretty sanguine about it.

One way these things can perhaps be minimised in the future is if we Beta Test the actual full size wu's that are going to be released rather than the 'bite' sized ones used in this case....this may well have highlighted the problem prior to full production.
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Not knowing if the problem is fixed or not I'm going to opt out of this project and abort all the work units that I have so I don't end up wasting time on errors.

I didn't get any of the Betas that were released today (I did get the orginal Betas). That's really a shame too as I have quite a selection of Windows operating systems and also a wide selection of Intel CPUs - from a P4 to a Q6700 @ 3.6GHz.....
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I've got one and will give it a shot.
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One way these things can perhaps be minimised in the future is if we Beta Test the actual full size wu's that are going to be released rather than the 'bite' sized ones used in this case....this may well have highlighted the problem prior to full production.


Release the version you tested? What a novel idea, Ady! You think IEEE should make that a standard? wink

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One way these things can perhaps be minimised in the future is if we Beta Test the actual full size wu's that are going to be released rather than the 'bite' sized ones used in this case....this may well have highlighted the problem prior to full production.


Release the version you tested? What a novel idea, Ady! wink

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You'd think that anyone could see the logic in that idea, wouldn't you?

Maybe even consider taking a look at the specs of the machines producing the results while they're at it?
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Hello [B.S] sTrey,
Just to report something I noticed:
I'm not seeing any error messages other than
Task R00001_<whatever> exited with zero status but no 'finished' file
If this happens repeatedly you may need to reset the project.

However I'm running this app on 4 hosts and only one of them gets this error -- and it gets it every time. The result output looks OK, except for the can't open pdb for appending message; they're all currently are in pending status.

The host with these messages is a Mac(book Pro), the other 3 are Windows. Also it's a dual core, the others are H/T P4 or less. My prefs limit BONC to 1 cpu.

I can do what it suggests and reset the project on this host, but I'm a bit skeptical that will make a difference.

Sorry that I overlooked you. I had a medical appointment, then took a nap. You are right to be skeptical. That is a BOINC warning message about something that never seems to be a real problem. I just ignore them when I get them and my results always validate.

BOINC does some useless nattering about things like that. Irritating, but in exchange for getting a lot of programming done by other people, you have to put up with their ideas about warning messages. It is a fair trade-off.

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