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If you want to abort them, go ahead. Post here when you are done.


Kevin - I have now aborted all those on my fast machines which have had a high proportion of errors relating to the upload size issue, and have left the others to run them.....I don't know if they are going to be penalised as a result, but I would be grateful if you could check and raise the download limits again if required smile

I don't know if this observation is of use to you or not, but I will mention anyway:

I have noticed that on a quad core that generally 2 out of the 4 running WU's have high memory useage and Page Faults, and at the same time 2 of the 4 end up with the restarting 'DLL Initialisation' error messages in Boinc and then result in the upload size error......I can't tell from Task Manager if the 2 showing this are the same 2 that have the DLL/upload size error messages, but I'm wondering if these are in some way related?


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We will be starting a beta test within 45 minutes.

Have any Betas been sent out yet? I haven't received any.

The Beta announcement was just posted.

If you were a multi day buffer runner, chances of getting them are reduced.... usually devices with a short return rate history get first choice. Not aware of the techs being able to push them to individual machines.
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We will be starting a beta test within 45 minutes.

Have any Betas been sent out yet? I haven't received any.

The Beta announcement was just posted.

If you were a multi day buffer runner, chances of getting them are reduced.... usually devices with a short return rate history get first choice. Not aware of the techs being able to push them to individual machines.


I see that work units running as high priority occasionally. They should be able to send them out that way, no?
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Are the Betas labeled as such?
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High priority is only driven by a short deadline and a client scheduler that puts them ahead in the queue. The present have 8 hour deadline, so they will always jump the queue.

Probably you occasionally get a repair job, but if you run on the verge of over buffering, meaning e.g. stocking 10 days and queuing jobs with 10 days deadline, your hosts are also bound to cycle in and out of high priority. The minimum safety BOINC uses is 24 hours so with a 10 day deadline the buffer on 24/7 should not exceed e.g. 8 days. The queue volume is automatically adapted for part time crunchers through the active_frac factor and the result duration correction factor

Expect you know already, but others may not, reading this stuff.

[added: Are these labelled as such.... don't know, likely, but you'd recognise them by short deadline and runtime of 1 hour anyhow.]
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[added: Are these labelled as such.... don't know, likely, but you'd recognise them by short deadline and runtime of 1 hour anyhow.]


That makes sense. I didn't think about that though. DUH! blushing

I run a two day buffer so if there's a problem on a weekend I won't run out of work before Monday. I didn't / haven't received any of the Beta work units.
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A quick update for the techs on the final old Rice WU's that have gone through:

I have watched closely the progress of these remaining old wu's, and the ones that error due to the data size error seem to have 2 issues whilst in progress prior to completion.......they all get the DLL Initialization errors AND have high Memory usage/leakage - so it seems in my case at least they are linked in some way.

Perhaps once the memory leakage issue is resolved then these DLL Initialization errors may disappear too thinking
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I've had 15 error so far, 13 have run the full 8 hours. Will I get credit for the 13 that ran for 8 hours? sad
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I've had 15 error so far, 13 have run the full 8 hours. Will I get credit for the 13 that ran for 8 hours? sad


Yes you will get credit as long as they validate, and I imagine they will. We have seen one batch validate so far, we are awaiting more batches to have a quorum which may start soon.

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Following up this post:
We believe that we have fixed the memory lead and one of the major additional errors. We will be starting a beta test within 45 minutes. This is going to be a fast beta test with 6 hour deadlines (workunits will take 1 hour).

Once this version is released, along with the corrected file size limits, we expect to see 65% fewer errors. Additionally, fixing these problems will reduce the amount of cpu time lost due to errors by 95%.


This version has been released to production.
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