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Sgt.Joe
Ace Cruncher USA Joined: Jul 4, 2006 Post Count: 7851 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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OK, I had to watch the video clip. Then I was curious about the rest of the movie. So I had to watch all of "The Sampo." Interesting. Not the best production values, but it did have a handsome hero and beautiful heroine.
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ultimaThule
Veteran Cruncher Joined: Apr 27, 2007 Post Count: 825 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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and beautiful heroine. Cheers Here 50 years later  About those soviet cubes mentioned earlier. Same bank that sold it education center to Byzantine boys, is demolishing hold block build 70 and 80. Reason is that there is no way to convert it to meet today's need, so just as I expect, CAT and TNT methode is only way to fix that period on history. Well, still beats sleeping without tent. http://tinyurl.com/abhoqt6  |
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Sgt.Joe
Ace Cruncher USA Joined: Jul 4, 2006 Post Count: 7851 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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and beautiful heroine. Cheers Here 50 years later About those soviet cubes mentioned earlier. Same bank that sold it education center to Byzantine boys, is demolishing hold block build 70 and 80. Reason is that there is no way to convert it to meet today's need, so just as I expect, CAT and TNT methode is only way to fix that period on history. Well, still beats sleeping without tent. http://tinyurl.com/abhoqt6 Ah, the things one learns. The movie was released with English voice overs under the title"The Day the Earth Froze." Interesting video of Eve Kivi. Time has treated her well it appears. I see she was not Finnish but Estonian. About the buildings. The article says they examined remodeling them but it was cheaper to demolish them and start over. That does not say much for their original construction. Hopefully the new buildings will be better constructed and nicer aesthetically. Cheers
Sgt. Joe
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
I know it's apples vs oranges but I think GPUs are a lot better at points per watt than CPUs. My Radeon 7770 runs off the power of the PCI slot (no additional power plugs meaning it is 75 watts max) and it does over 30K points per day. My 7870 has one power plug and does over 52K points per day. I am not sure how to compare your machine with the one ultimatethule has. This may be one way. 30000/(75*24)=16.67 pts per watthour (if you are using the maximum wattage.) His machine would be about 12000/600=20 pts per watthour (if he uses .6 kwh per day which equates to 25 watts in use (25*24=600)). If your card would use 60 watts per hour on average (rather than the maximum)this would give 30000/(60*24)=20.83 pts per watthour. All of this is subject to change if I made a mistake or if I am thinking about this in the wrong terms. Cheers So using my UPS monitor to measure power draw, my server PC with a Intel Q9550 and the Radeon 7770 draws about 63-70 watts of additional power when running BOINC vs BOINC suspended. This is while crunching 3 GPU tasks plus 1 CPU task. It generates about 32K points per day. So taking an average of 67W that is 32000/(67*24) = 19.9 pts per WH. The Q9550 doesn't do power throttling like newer CPUs so my guess is the other machine with the 7870 and an i5-2500K is even more efficient. These Radeon cards can be found dirt cheap too, around $100 for the 7770 in particular. Not bad considering the Q9550 does less then 3000 pts/day on it's own. $100 for a near 30K/day points boost! |
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kateiacy
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Jan 23, 2010 Post Count: 1027 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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I think your 7770 could be doing more than it is. I have a 7750, which is a lower powered card than the 7770. Here are my last few daily totals from the machine it's in. I'm running 2 GPU WUs at a time sharing a CPU core, plus 3 CPU tasks. The CPU is just an AMD Phenom II X4 910e, so low power and only 2.6 GHz. In other words, the 7750 is doing way over 100K points per day.
----------------------------------------02/26/2013 0:004:19:39:38 162,187 352 02/25/2013 0:005:06:00:39 175,904 374 02/24/2013 0:004:03:17:06 135,440 303 02/23/2013 0:006:05:44:53 220,460 497 02/22/2013 0:004:23:21:46 136,818 306 02/21/2013 0:004:17:21:42 191,389 448 P.S.: Next time I have to reboot the machine, I'll stick in my Kill-a-Watt and see what its power draw is. I haven't done that since putting in the Radeon card.  [Edit 1 times, last edit by kateiacy at Feb 27, 2013 1:11:03 AM] |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
I think your 7770 could be doing more than it is. I have a 7750, which is a lower powered card than the 7770. Here are my last few daily totals from the machine it's in. I'm running 2 GPU WUs at a time sharing a CPU core, plus 3 CPU tasks. The CPU is just an AMD Phenom II X4 910e, so low power and only 2.6 GHz. In other words, the 7750 is doing way over 100K points per day. 02/26/2013 0:004:19:39:38 162,187 352 02/25/2013 0:005:06:00:39 175,904 374 02/24/2013 0:004:03:17:06 135,440 303 02/23/2013 0:006:05:44:53 220,460 497 02/22/2013 0:004:23:21:46 136,818 306 02/21/2013 0:004:17:21:42 191,389 448 P.S.: Next time I have to reboot the machine, I'll stick in my Kill-a-Watt and see what its power draw is. I haven't done that since putting in the Radeon card. We must be looking at different points somehow. I'm going off the stats on boincstats.com. Here are my hosts: http://allprojectstats.com/top.php?projekt=6&...;type=3&userid=250209 You can see the two GPU machines at the top if you sort by recent avg credit. Here are your hosts: http://allprojectstats.com/top.php?projekt=0&...type=3&userid=1978309 Your GPU machine is showing only 22K points per day, less than my 32K points per day. Which makes sense: 7750 < 7770. :) |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
OK I checked my stats on WCG and here is my 7770 machine from those same days:
02/26/2013 0:003:18:05:24 235,928 532 02/25/2013 0:003:16:25:04 216,590 492 02/24/2013 0:004:01:08:02 253,179 583 02/23/2013 0:004:02:59:50 253,473 580 02/22/2013 0:004:04:59:36 257,733 582 02/21/2013 0:003:12:45:45 250,090 571 Anyway I guess this also probably means my points per watt are a lot better than stated earlier :) |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Seriously folks, if you're running "old" computers just for WCG or BOINC, sell them or donate them and just pop one of these in one of your newer PCs:
----------------------------------------http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131477 $100 after rebate. About 70W of draw which gets you 220K-260K WCG points per day. Or you you have enough PCI x16 slots, buy two or three! :) [Edit 4 times, last edit by Former Member at Feb 27, 2013 2:38:23 PM] |
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Bearcat
Master Cruncher USA Joined: Jan 6, 2007 Post Count: 2803 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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I see your points increasing. Was hoping to pass you a while back but now see why. Nice numbers your producing.
---------------------------------------- According to my UPS's my rigs are on, my 3770k w/7870 is using around 180 watts (GPU at full load), while my dually (intel 5670's) w/7950 eats around 450 watts at full load. Not sure how accurate the UPS is. Glad I sold one of my duallies to cut down on the electric bill.
Crunching for humanity since 2007!
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kateiacy
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Jan 23, 2010 Post Count: 1027 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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OK I checked my stats on WCG and here is my 7770 machine from those same days: 02/26/2013 0:003:18:05:24 235,928 532 02/25/2013 0:003:16:25:04 216,590 492 02/24/2013 0:004:01:08:02 253,179 583 02/23/2013 0:004:02:59:50 253,473 580 02/22/2013 0:004:04:59:36 257,733 582 02/21/2013 0:003:12:45:45 250,090 571 Anyway I guess this also probably means my points per watt are a lot better than stated earlier :) Glad you realized we had been comparing apples to oranges. Yup, the 22K vs 32K comparison in BOINC points makes perfect sense for our two machines. And, yup, your WCG points per watt look great!!  |
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