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supdood
Senior Cruncher USA Joined: Aug 6, 2015 Post Count: 333 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Yes, there appear to be some major issues with Folding at the moment, most likely due to a setup that couldn't scale to the new demand from all the publicity. A few crunchers from team USA jumped over there to try it out; their experience is documented in our public forums: https://www.boincusa.com/forum/index.php?forums/folding/.
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richardcyb
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Thanks, that's encouraging. I've been wondering when we could unleash the computing power of the grid on Covid-19. Please keep us up to date.
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hchc
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Aug 15, 2006 Post Count: 746 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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AMuthig said:
----------------------------------------I noticed that Folding@Home had COVID19 related work so thought of straying from WCG and actually re-starting my main cluster. But... my initial FAH experience was not very positive. I am used to working fully in BOINC, so with FAH how do you manage or track progress? I switched over my four machines (see sig, some are old) to F@h after my 1-week trial with Rosetta@home left me frustrated at their lack of communication in the forums and the complete lack of work units for SARS-CoV-2. Fortunately F@h has maybe 50+ different work unit types now related to this pandemic, and they keep adding more for CPU (on top of the GPU ones at Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center). I'm tracking all four machines from the GUI of my main desktop PC, and it's a click of the mouse to switch among them. Unlike BOINC Manager where I have to "File...Select Computer....Ok" each time I want to switch. It wasn't hard to figure out how to get F@h client to run on my headless Linux machines that are terminal only. AMuthig said: After having working professionally with university research computing and a long time with WCG, FAH initially seems second rate. Am I missing something? I have criticisms of both F@h and WCG as well as BOINC Development, but this isn't the best thread for that. I do think F@h researchers are more aggressive with writing and publishing their work (many hundreds) compared to the scientists behind WCG projects. Communication with the actual scientists is non-existent at most projects so that's the same everywhere. It's nothing like UD/grid.org days with the Human Proteome Folding project...there was one NYU structural biology scientist who was very active on the forums. I was SO excited for MCM releasing their sarcoma work and have been waiting over a year. Similar excitement that SCC project has resumed. But IMO this pandemic takes priority, so until F@h runs out of work, I'll 99% be over there for now. I have an old laptop running WCG 24/7 still. If a WCG project comes to light, I'll happily do both. To be clear, there's sometimes periods of an hour or so where F@h is out of work, so I figured out how to get WCG to start up automatically. Added "FahCore_a7.exe" (Windows) or "FahCore_a7" (Linux) to BOINC's list of "Exclusive apps" and set the BOINC/WCG buffer to only get 0.01 days of work.
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Falconet
Master Cruncher Portugal Joined: Mar 9, 2009 Post Count: 3295 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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I have criticisms of both F@h and WCG as well as BOINC Development, but this isn't the best thread for that. I do think F@h researchers are more aggressive with writing and publishing their work (many hundreds) compared to the scientists behind WCG projects. Communication with the actual scientists is non-existent at most projects so that's the same everywhere. It's nothing like UD/grid.org days with the Human Proteome Folding project...there was one NYU structural biology scientist who was very active on the forums. I agree, communication between the project scientists and volunteers is not very good. A few days ago, I was looking at some of the old projects at WCG, seeing if I could find papers, etc but nothing. SN2S and Uncovering Genome Mysteries for instance, we haven't heard anything in years and there are no papers published, no databases published, really nothing.... AMD Ryzen 5 1600AF 6C/12T 3.2 GHz - 85W AMD Ryzen 5 2500U 4C/8T 2.0 GHz - 28W AMD Ryzen 7 7730U 8C/16T 3.0 GHz |
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Jim Slade
Veteran Cruncher Joined: Apr 27, 2007 Post Count: 664 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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World's Fastest Supercomputer Finds 77 Potential COVID-19 Treatments
The IBM Supercomputer-called "Summit" and housed at the Oak Ridge National Laboratory in Tennessee- has identified 77 treatments that may be able to stop COVID-19 dead in its tracks. The research detailed in a paper uploaded to the preprint server ChemRxiv , could even help researchers develp a vaccine for the deadly virus- but so far, it's only an important first step. https://futurism.com/neoscope/fastest-superco...otential-covid-treatments  |
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Glen David Short
Senior Cruncher Joined: Nov 6, 2008 Post Count: 185 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Sad that theyre having issues over there at Folding@Home, because it holds vast potential, having added 400,000 new volunteers in the last two weeks according to this Tom's Hardware article. In fact, its computing power is reported to be more than the world's top seven supercomputers combined:
----------------------------------------Propelled by average enthusiasts in their shared quest to defeat COVID-19, the Folding@Home network is now pushing out 470 PetaFLOPS of raw compute power. To put that in perspective, that's twice as fast as Summit, the world's fastest supercomputer, making the network faster than any known supercomputer. It's also faster than the top seven supercomputers in the world, combined... Distributed computing has always been a great hobby because of the detailed stats compilation and the dizzying number of teams involved, but Folding@Home's addition of coronavirus research to its normal pursuits, like cancer, Alzheimer's, and Parkinson's research, has led to an overwhelming amount of new users. Folding@Home reports that it has seen a 1,200% increase in contributors, with Bitcoin miners also joining the fight, and over 400,000 new volunteers have joined over the last two weeks. https://www.tomshardware.com/news/folding-at-...ters-coronavirus-covid-19  |
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RunningInCircles
Cruncher Canada Joined: Dec 30, 2005 Post Count: 5 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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i JUST checked thw World community girid just for this very serious subject that we ALL can try to FLATTEN this bug!! Let's pray that we have an up and running task just for this. We are all world wide connected....all these beautiful hearts...Luck out there!
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AmigaForever
Cruncher Germany Joined: Aug 25, 2011 Post Count: 13 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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I noticed that Folding@Home had COVID19 related work so thought of straying from WCG and actually re-starting my main cluster. But... my initial FAH experience was not very positive. I am used to working fully in BOINC, so with FAH how do you manage or track progress? After having working professionally with university research computing and a long time with WCG, FAH initially seems second rate. Am I missing something? No, you are not missing something. Folding@Home's user agent is far from the comfortable and well-arranged BOINC interface, not to mention their control possibilites. I tried Folding@Home a few weeks ago because of their corona research but retracted after a few days from it because of the above points. Their interface is confusing and controls are splitted up (and I am a well-experienced computer buff). Moreover, the agent did not do what I wanted (in my case stop after the current WU although I selected that repeatedly). I think F@H should rework their user agent or better change to BOINC as it provides a well-developed framework. Actually I chrunch for Rosetta@Home as they have corona research in their database. Disadvantage of Rosette is that you cannot select the projects you want to work on but get them randomly(?). But Rosetta uses BOINC which is IMO a HUGE advantage. Hope to have helped. Stay save. |
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GroundForcesWTX
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I can't tell you how ready I am for a WCG CV project.
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voidcomp
Cruncher Joined: Sep 20, 2009 Post Count: 23 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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I can't tell you how ready I am for a WCG CV project. Me too. I stopped waiting and moved 3/4 of my farm over to Rosetta like I'm sure others are. A shame WCG isn't flexibly structured to take on serious global pandemic research of this magnitude by cutting through the red tape swiftly. They sound like the FDA. |
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