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johncmacalister2010@gmail.com
Veteran Cruncher Canada Joined: Nov 16, 2010 Post Count: 799 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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I'm with you enels.
----------------------------------------2018 is too late. I'm so 2008, you are 2000 and late. I'm not going to waste electricity on 'researching' a chaotic system.  crunching, crunching, crunching. AMD Ryzen 5 2600 6-core Processor with Windows 11 64 Pro. AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor with Windows 11 64 Pro (part time)  |
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catchercradle
Advanced Cruncher England Joined: Jan 16, 2009 Post Count: 136 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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How many crunchers will support this? I run cpdn tasks including testing which doesn't get me any credits anywhere when Linux tasks are available. I have also run climate@home tasks. Should WCG start running climate models as well, will this just divide the crunchers who want to run these tasks or will it bring a significant number of new crunchers into climate work?
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Sgt.Joe
Ace Cruncher USA Joined: Jul 4, 2006 Post Count: 7697 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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I'm not going to waste electricity on 'researching' a chaotic system. It is your money and your machine, crunch what ever makes sense to you. Chaotic systems do have limits and can be modeled. Trying to model the entire earth system with the myriad of variables available would be an exercise in futility as there is not enough computer power for that. As far as climate, we do not yet know what part of the climate they might like to work on. Let's see what they are proposing before a judgement is made. Cheers
Sgt. Joe
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SekeRob
Master Cruncher Joined: Jan 7, 2013 Post Count: 2741 Status: Offline |
Actually a Dutch institution is doing the 'global' modelling daily, and is deemed to be the best in closely predicting for instance how hurricanes will move. Fortunately for the world, Twump can not defund this science effort, an opinion on the USes found here: http://mashable.com/2017/09/14/hurricane-irma...t-models-gfs-vs-european/
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Jim1348
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Jul 13, 2009 Post Count: 1066 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Actually a Dutch institution is doing the 'global' modelling daily, and is deemed to be the best in closely predicting for instance how hurricanes will move. Fortunately for the world, Twump can not defund this science effort, an opinion on the USes found here: http://mashable.com/2017/09/14/hurricane-irma...t-models-gfs-vs-european/ As noted there, the European models forecast hurricane Sandy more accurately in 2012 also. They predicted that it would hook inland, instead of staying out to sea, several days before the U.S. models did. At the time, I thought it was probably because W. had under-funded weather research. But I can make a prediction too: If some storm takes out Mar-a-Lago, the U.S. funding will increase dramatically. [Edit 1 times, last edit by Jim1348 at Oct 13, 2017 6:03:15 PM] |
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Former Member
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I read several years back that the ECWFM outperformed the GFS on a regular basis. Updating the GFS hasn't been a big priority in the US. I hope we get some glacier or ice sheet modeling projects or high res CO2 or methane modeling.
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SekeRob
Master Cruncher Joined: Jan 7, 2013 Post Count: 2741 Status: Offline |
EUROPEAN Tropomi was launched today, sampling the atmosphere 20 million times a day. http://www.tropomi.eu 'observing our future'
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Sgt.Joe
Ace Cruncher USA Joined: Jul 4, 2006 Post Count: 7697 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Actually a Dutch institution is doing the 'global' modelling daily, and is deemed to be the best in closely predicting for instance how hurricanes will move. Fortunately for the world, Twump can not defund this science effort, an opinion on the USes found here: http://mashable.com/2017/09/14/hurricane-irma...t-models-gfs-vs-european/ If they have a way to make that work, more power to them. I wish them well. Cheers
Sgt. Joe
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wolfman1360
Senior Cruncher Canada Joined: Jan 17, 2016 Post Count: 176 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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I'm really hoping that WCG can somehow work with the existing climate prediction project. Would be super nice.
----------------------------------------I'm all for helping out with climate prediction and the like - I think recent events have made it pretty clear and what better way to do that than harnessing even more computing power. Here's hoping something comes along soon! Keep crunching :)
Crunching for the betterment of human kind and the canines who will always be our best friends.
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enels
Senior Cruncher Joined: Apr 25, 2008 Post Count: 286 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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You cannot model a chaotic system. Well, you can, but you'd only be fooling yourself.
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