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keithhenry
Ace Cruncher Senile old farts of the world ....uh.....uh..... nevermind Joined: Nov 18, 2004 Post Count: 18665 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
Overall, managed to snag four on my quad and two on the C2D. All but one have already completed in about half the initially estimated time. For the one still running, observed it checkpointing about every 10 minutes with the progress percent in BMgr constantly changing. Suspended (with keep in memory on) and resumed. Elapsed time is updating, CPU time is not changing, at 89.836 percent complete and memory usage is at 151,nnn K. Will report separately on other tasks.
----------------------------------------Edit: After about 15 minutes, suddenly went to 100%. Results Status info: BETA_ BETA_ 9999987_ 0757_ 1-- Amberscomputer Pending Validation 10/31/13 07:01:23 10/31/13 16:08:39 5.07 / 5.73 105.7 / 0.0 BETA_ BETA_ 9999987_ 0757_ 1-- 719 Pending Validation 10/31/13 07:01:23 10/31/13 16:08:39 5.07 105.7 / 0.0 BETA_ BETA_ 9999987_ 0757_ 0-- - In Progress 10/31/13 07:01:18 11/10/13 07:01:18 0.00 0.0 / 0.0 Log looks normal for this one: Result Name: BETA_ BETA_ 9999987_ 0757_ 1-- <core_client_version>6.10.58</core_client_version> <![CDATA[ <stderr_txt> Commandline = projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/wcgrid_beta17_7.19_windows_intelx86 -SettingsFile BETA_9999987_0757.txt -DatabaseFile dataset-GDS2771-v1.txt Initializing wcg_learn_limit = 250000 Running [06:23:56]: Computing pass 0 [06:24:08]: Computing pass 1 [06:24:19]: Computing pass 2 [06:24:30]: Computing pass 3 [06:24:42]: Computing pass 4 [06:24:53]: Computing pass 5 [06:25:04]: Computing pass 6 [06:25:16]: Computing pass 7 [06:25:27]: Computing pass 8 [06:25:39]: Computing pass 9 [06:25:52]: Computing pass 10 [06:26:03]: Computing pass 11 [06:26:15]: Computing pass 12 [06:26:28]: Computing pass 13 [06:26:41]: Computing pass 14 [06:26:53]: Computing pass 15 [06:27:06]: Computing pass 16 [06:27:17]: Computing pass 17 [06:27:30]: Computing pass 18 [06:27:43]: Computing pass 19 <snip for size> [12:04:52]: Computing pass 1844 [12:05:02]: Computing pass 1845 [12:05:14]: Computing pass 1846 [12:05:25]: Computing pass 1847 Run complete, CPU time: 18672.524095 12:05:37 (4584): called boinc_finish </stderr_txt> ]]> ---------------------------------------- [Edit 1 times, last edit by keithhenry at Oct 31, 2013 4:21:46 PM] |
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Dataman
Ace Cruncher Joined: Nov 16, 2004 Post Count: 4865 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
Thanks Rob and Nano. Since I have not run WCG in ages, I detached and reattached WCG on the machines that did not get any work. I no longer get the message on these. Two machines are still running Beta wu's so I will detach them later. Thanks for the comments.
----------------------------------------EDIT: Am getting comp errors at 100% for the output file error already reported. [Edit 1 times, last edit by Dataman at Oct 31, 2013 4:24:55 PM] |
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Jim1348
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Jul 13, 2009 Post Count: 1066 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
The "not requesting tasks: project is not highest priority" message shows up in BOINC all the time even if WCG is by far set to the highest priority. (BOINC 300%, other project 1%) It usually sorts itself out but sometimes it takes a while. FWIW I have found the problem is less frequent if you set the lower priority project to 0%. It has something to do with the REC (Recent Estimated Credit) scheme. That it is beyond my understanding is not the problem; the problem is that it seems to be beyond anyone else's also. http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=8579#50263 http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=8511#49913 |
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keithhenry
Ace Cruncher Senile old farts of the world ....uh.....uh..... nevermind Joined: Nov 18, 2004 Post Count: 18665 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
Of the other three on the quad, two have run to completion and then errored on the results file size error (the error code 131). Third one appears to have run fine.
----------------------------------------BETA_ BETA_ 9999987_ 0767_ 0-- Amberscomputer Error 10/31/13 07:01:23 10/31/13 14:44:22 4.43 / 4.49 76.3 / 0.0 BETA_ BETA_ 9999986_ 0033_ 1-- Amberscomputer Pending Validation 10/31/13 06:45:37 10/31/13 14:25:55 4.40 / 4.45 74.8 / 0.0 BETA_ BETA_ 9999986_ 0214_ 0-- Amberscomputer Error 10/31/13 06:42:28 10/31/13 13:57:42 3.92 / 4.24 69.1 / 0.0 On the log for the two that error 131'd, there may be some truncation. Middle and end look as expected: [10:42:26]: Computing pass 19000 [10:42:27]: Computing pass 19001 [10:42:28]: Computing pass 19002 Run complete, CPU time: 15931.882927 10:42:59 (3792): called boinc_finish </stderr_txt> <message> <file_xfer_error> <file_name>BETA_BETA_9999987_0767_0_0</file_name> <error_code>-131</error_code> </file_xfer_error> </message> ]]> I think we might have lost some of the initial info. Here's the beginning: Result Name: BETA_ BETA_ 9999987_ 0767_ 0-- <core_client_version>6.10.58</core_client_version> <![CDATA[ <stderr_txt> 107 [10:16:27]: Computing pass 17108 [10:16:27]: Computing pass 17109 [10:16:28]: Computing pass 17110 Saw the same thing in the log for the other error. |
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Crystal Pellet
Veteran Cruncher Joined: May 21, 2008 Post Count: 1316 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
My 3GB memory eating task (BETA_9999984_0461) finally died after a restart due to C++ Exception Out of Memory.
----------------------------------------At CPU 3h45m running there was no cpu progress anymore (enough memory left), so I suspended with LAIM off. After restart the task started with the 0.5% init and was probably reading the 1.3GB minichromosomes checkpointo file. After about 6 minutes: Computation error. http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/ms/device/v...og.do?resultId=1663330180 |
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keithhenry
Ace Cruncher Senile old farts of the world ....uh.....uh..... nevermind Joined: Nov 18, 2004 Post Count: 18665 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
The two on the C2D seem to have a new/different problem not yet mentioned in this thread. Looks like they hit something called the wcg_learn_limit. Also look wierd in results status:
----------------------------------------BETA_ BETA_ 9999986_ 0687_ 1-- keithhenry Pending Validation 10/31/13 06:53:32 10/31/13 14:16:43 0.00 / 5.90 77.3 / 0.0 BETA_ BETA_ 9999986_ 0686_ 1-- keithhenry Pending Validation 10/31/13 06:53:32 10/31/13 13:44:15 0.00 / 5.36 69.9 / 0.0 NO CPU time used at all over 5-6 hours?????? Results logs: Result Name: BETA_ BETA_ 9999986_ 0686_ 1-- <core_client_version>7.0.64</core_client_version> <![CDATA[ <stderr_txt> Commandline = projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/wcgrid_beta17_7.19_windows_intelx86 -SettingsFile BETA_9999986_0686.txt -DatabaseFile dataset-GDS2771-v1.txt Initializing wcg_learn_limit = 500000 Running Commandline = projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/wcgrid_beta17_7.19_windows_intelx86 -SettingsFile BETA_9999986_0686.txt -DatabaseFile dataset-GDS2771-v1.txt Initializing wcg_learn_limit = 500000 Running Commandline = projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/wcgrid_beta17_7.19_windows_intelx86 -SettingsFile BETA_9999986_0686.txt -DatabaseFile dataset-GDS2771-v1.txt Initializing wcg_learn_limit = 500000 Running INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 1.2638144325683243 0.0264719222795975 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.1655302381200272 0.0047664784697190 [04:43:45]: Computing pass 0 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.0111073428151940 0.0035259961050542 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.1039325189667579 0.0021215368906269 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.2940482148896990 0.0830708681969554 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.9295082047572123 0.0138989752085763 [05:26:00]: Computing pass 1 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.5162645162017725 0.0045894404784121 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.8341555470433377 0.0667227024550812 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.6635277076065904 0.0090555085243977 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.3230009280596278 0.0019195301047148 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.3166103931253019 0.0031695078928351 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.1798016109892160 0.0069725639623357 [06:09:43]: Computing pass 2 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.1578459515221766 1.1431224002662930 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.2303994325484382 0.0036248539981898 [06:42:45]: Computing pass 3 [07:05:37]: Computing pass 4 [07:26:19]: Computing pass 5 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.7297217022460245 0.0180201747934916 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.3588273675654818 0.0485007314746326 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.6428882826558038 0.0029610554797728 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.3588273675654818 0.0485007314746326 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.1960712667478219 0.0072532713400051 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.5454317064486531 0.0046850152557454 [08:19:23]: Computing pass 6 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.3655681710131375 0.0225856540682798 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.4895290450458560 0.0070381225823439 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.0679282239318582 0.0074429504456930 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.4895290450458560 0.0070381225823439 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.0679282239318582 0.0074429504456930 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.7854383708258865 0.0015543594099654 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.4809788057127662 0.0086118516602482 [09:04:06]: Computing pass 7 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.5242265354991105 0.0016951703764789 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.9168185694106796 0.0011780155773522 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.2530577992492908 0.0027103380762128 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 1.1811763701589371 0.0075543584316620 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.5178714345238404 0.0029622541214849 Run complete, CPU time: 17.312500 09:44:12 (4336): called boinc_finish </stderr_txt> ]]> Result Name: BETA_ BETA_ 9999986_ 0687_ 1-- <core_client_version>7.0.64</core_client_version> <![CDATA[ <stderr_txt> Commandline = projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/wcgrid_beta17_7.19_windows_intelx86 -SettingsFile BETA_9999986_0687.txt -DatabaseFile dataset-GDS2771-v1.txt Initializing wcg_learn_limit = 500000 Running INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.9306130754880542 0.0013269573153138 Commandline = projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/wcgrid_beta17_7.19_windows_intelx86 -SettingsFile BETA_9999986_0687.txt -DatabaseFile dataset-GDS2771-v1.txt Initializing wcg_learn_limit = 500000 Running INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.9306130754880542 0.0013269573153138 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 1.5157886212385279 0.0043682131280320 Commandline = projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/wcgrid_beta17_7.19_windows_intelx86 -SettingsFile BETA_9999986_0687.txt -DatabaseFile dataset-GDS2771-v1.txt Initializing wcg_learn_limit = 500000 Running INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.9306130754880542 0.0013269573153138 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 1.5157886212385279 0.0043682131280320 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.0546354648312928 0.0104368915009729 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 1.3825371822586021 0.0131797517278756 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 1.1564904868719168 0.0606243634702537 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 1.1613320406149796 0.0167590824160300 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.7354066345333195 0.0010348249185199 [04:45:08]: Computing pass 0 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.8907767249820608 0.0088352704417503 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.8696928243193725 0.0017292855294500 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.8977792307703112 0.0016669011833983 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 1.1404948500055525 0.0015705908879227 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.6439989595537554 0.0013771189870795 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.2269463489683403 0.0016952808462065 [05:31:31]: Computing pass 1 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 1.2491209499130491 0.0438922539655096 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 1.0624066676641633 0.0030115176542154 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 1.3557613370103354 0.0142810148373087 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 1.1132854635307012 0.0482161453580261 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 1.2767474734300777 0.0012341187928655 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.8748922203885741 0.0422970815741337 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.5144002935285243 0.0024281657919403 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.3478041112375649 0.0087232708560805 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.3271600452524126 0.0022747945474748 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.2761045791439756 0.0021555654481062 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 1.0414037487716996 0.0030684923741120 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.2797903294390380 0.0124435193492047 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 1.3467718700595697 0.0071808147982324 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.9638276994082844 0.0319524751910194 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 1.7625579689169228 0.0116199447836607 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 1.2607174191671220 0.0014609071102782 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 1.3358894086986766 0.0012662606024492 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.1662026721126040 0.0026947020746775 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.4127757766918876 0.0011627355595465 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.1870594740512388 0.0057986616920971 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 1.5188078116752877 0.0031286082496962 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.6791741217994058 0.0073368572407162 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 1.5291449080785213 0.0026149857669395 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 1.4648751839158649 0.1056138464037417 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.2848100522392087 0.0056661229621682 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.2862800874645473 0.0046580571863615 [06:25:04]: Computing pass 2 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 1.6556461636200765 0.0045497556113787 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.1363877149779000 0.0074460455039116 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.2639667582011498 0.0022093942309311 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.9541360456137227 0.0010536519574771 [07:06:08]: Computing pass 3 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.0969808427367980 0.0080604942421942 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.0220239637144957 0.0015445053968008 [07:39:20]: Computing pass 4 [08:08:30]: Computing pass 5 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.4804144055500501 0.0166927090256195 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 1.5350216562874266 0.0832392278562111 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 1.0634210917733071 0.0020808112252269 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.4403237987155535 0.0088608522970333 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 1.4436026181710986 0.0164317104595000 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 1.1174512946827235 0.0017238702623672 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.6086977638649387 0.0013476770876935 [08:42:31]: Computing pass 6 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 1.0541172740722686 0.0041290341051763 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.2957050115205675 0.0026508875079543 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.3953748197457117 0.0126999179052518 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.2721369523952717 0.0026493192742372 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 1.1752569014988694 0.0043657239473660 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.8446161434485475 0.0258392030761456 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.8551218192533270 0.0298255580683104 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.5105488099728177 0.0174844252211699 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.5456490959090843 0.0089732668916156 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 1.1675435547404049 0.0013577196793477 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.7991426260656454 0.0045595201752491 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.3342770470226242 0.0036535613648425 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.2129804128710475 0.0033836185372138 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.7331041273332630 0.0013949199702381 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.0883002388480350 0.0160195389545379 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.6399155177923603 0.0030932370876329 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 1.1385626643550495 0.0012790346641225 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.8358943176794185 0.0028440997784855 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.8566295954960879 0.0088704299194546 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.7240877318863568 0.0052345557464761 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.8764140448483886 0.0149081933931257 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.9789334145937119 0.0024521593438891 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.7259356704338416 0.0047931986947276 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.6381480898351128 0.0122956923626418 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.9884531238592444 0.0014771642465714 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.5268672106822976 0.0033274912602259 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.7259314168036326 0.0303661613430180 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.6305665147747277 0.0216596332442762 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 1.2792006668892100 0.0048917602726775 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.4607336589809847 0.0864977103091178 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.0825255442696289 0.0107226601568300 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.7784789262029790 0.0021112475975542 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.9234426036900914 0.0103527923786260 [09:40:43]: Computing pass 7 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 1.2021978584480166 0.0221831771470988 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.5509078702687020 0.0441104432490818 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.3594185122174167 0.0433419619722031 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 1.0289042507683916 0.0282476948964927 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 1.7251186440919355 0.0313938708265837 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 1.8016195493678993 0.0154935819209641 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 0.1853634657998100 0.0020232707946661 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 1.0727158791634110 0.0012910037401923 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 1.3017853036235465 0.0019908595344305 INFO: WcgLearnLimit(500000) reached. 1.0959507227748873 0.0012932975988775 Run complete, CPU time: 11.921875 10:16:44 (5980): called boinc_finish </stderr_txt> ]]> |
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Former Member
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The "not requesting tasks: project is not highest priority" message shows up in BOINC all the time even if WCG is by far set to the highest priority. (BOINC 300%, other project 1%) It usually sorts itself out but sometimes it takes a while. FWIW I have found the problem is less frequent if you set the lower priority project to 0%. It has something to do with the REC (Recent Estimated Credit) scheme. That it is beyond my understanding is not the problem; the problem is that it seems to be beyond anyone else's also. http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=8579#50263 http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=8511#49913 Right, in the essence, resource allocation [it's truly screwed], is supposed to be credit earned base, not time base what it used to be [And that sure would take care of over-granting]. Since credit award happens with delay ** [don't we all see that...], REC is also taking place on the client, so is my understanding, but how the heck could that ever be right, and given the 700 BOINC servers no longer produce 'claimed' [WCG has hacked that in, but will be dropping this at some time in the future], how could a client ever take account of what's open and what's not nd by how much? So, a waste of time discussion to the power 10, and I did write in one of those linked threads, to stop watching [it's a health advice too ;o]. ** The client fetches new credit totals with delay too, if not connecting to a project, the totals are stale as listed in the client are old news... Ready to Report can accumulate too for 24 hours e.g. Task size estimates vary too, making cache erratic as well, to add to the equation. [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Oct 31, 2013 4:49:35 PM] |
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Thargor
Veteran Cruncher UK Joined: Feb 3, 2012 Post Count: 1291 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
Looks like I've picked up two WUs, one on my PC at home and another on a very slow physical server hosted in work.
----------------------------------------Can't remote-control the PC at home, but the server in work's WU has an estimated completion time of 38:43:41 (when it starts), will be interesting to see if it completes that properly and successfully (and within the deadline). |
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keithhenry
Ace Cruncher Senile old farts of the world ....uh.....uh..... nevermind Joined: Nov 18, 2004 Post Count: 18665 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
Just got a resend on WU where user got the 131 error on the results file. Is this worth crunching? IE, did the parm get changed or will I just run into the same error? I'm the _2:
----------------------------------------BETA_ BETA_ 9999986_ 0014_ 2-- - In Progress 10/31/13 16:18:13 11/10/13 16:18:13 0.00 0.0 / 0.0 BETA_ BETA_ 9999986_ 0014_ 0-- 719 Error 10/31/13 06:50:51 10/31/13 16:18:06 2.41 61.2 / 0.0 BETA_ BETA_ 9999986_ 0014_ 1-- - In Progress 10/31/13 06:50:49 11/10/13 06:50:49 0.00 0.0 / 0.0 |
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Jim1348
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Jul 13, 2009 Post Count: 1066 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
So, a waste of time discussion to the power 10, and I did write in one of those linked threads, to stop watching [it's a health advice too ;o]. I was eating apples in the Alto-Adige a couple of weeks ago; much better for your health. |
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