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damir1978
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----------------------------------------Brillouin Energy Awarded Patent For Its Potentially World Changing Fusion Reactor https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/thread/5654-...?postID=102569#post102569 The dream goes forward... ---------------------------------------- [Edit 1 times, last edit by damir1978 at Jan 31, 2019 9:04:36 PM] |
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In other news: Brillouin Energy Awarded Patent For Its Potentially World Changing Fusion Reactor https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/thread/5654-...?postID=102569#post102569 The dream goes forward... ...and how many patents have been issued that have no products to show??? ![]() BTW, this topic started with a date...FREE ENERGY STARTS Maybe it was just off by a few years... ![]() ![]() ---------------------------------------- [Edit 2 times, last edit by BladeD at Feb 6, 2019 8:46:15 AM] |
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In other news: Brillouin Energy Awarded Patent For Its Potentially World Changing Fusion Reactor https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/thread/5654-...?postID=102569#post102569 The dream goes forward... ...and how many patents have been issued that have no products to show??? ![]() BTW, this topic started with a date...FREE ENERGY STARTS Maybe it was just off by a few years... ![]() ![]() It was certainly not off by many years or even one year. However it was not meant to be FREE ENERGY for the masses due to human politics and weaknesses. Do you deny the body of evidence related to LENR? Only if LENR is not a scientific fact this Free Energy (better to be called, ultra-high efficient energy since only God has truly free energy) is not what it claims to be. This delay due to greed/politics should outrage us and should make us be more vocal in pushing the science on this effect. Are we better off forgetting about LENR as an effect or putting the science of it on slow burner? I will give you a parallel example: https://www.thoughtco.com/photovoltaics-timeline-1992481 "Today's photovoltaic systems are used to generate electricity to pump water, light up the night, activate switches, charge batteries, supply power to the utility grid, and much more. 1839: Nineteen-year-old Edmund Becquerel, a French experimental physicist, discovered the photovoltaic effect while experimenting with an electrolytic cell made up of two metal electrodes. 1873: Willoughby Smith discovered the photoconductivity of selenium. 1876: Adams and Day observed the photovoltaic effect in solid selenium. 1883: Charles Fritts, an American inventor, described the first solar cells made from selenium wafers. 1887: Heinrich Hertz discovered that ultraviolet light altered the lowest voltage capable of causing a spark to jump between two metal electrodes. 1904: Hallwachs discovered that a combination of copper and cuprous oxide was photosensitive. Einstein published his paper on the photoelectric effect. 1914: The existence of a barrier layer in PV devices was reported. 1916: Millikan provided experimental proof of the photoelectric effect. 1918: Polish scientist Czochralski developed a way to grow single-crystal silicon. 1923: Albert Einstein received the Nobel Prize for his theories explaining the photoelectric effect. 1951: A grown p-n junction enabled the production of a single-crystal cell of germanium. 1954: The PV effect in Cd was reported; primary work was performed by Rappaport, Loferski, and Jenny at RCA. Bell Labs researchers Pearson, Chapin, and Fuller reported their discovery of 4.5% efficient silicon solar cells; this was raised to 6% only a few months later (by a work team including Mort Prince). Chapin, Fuller, Pearson (AT&T) submitted their results to the Journal of Applied Physics. AT&T demonstrated solar cells in Murray Hill, New Jersey, then at the National Academy of Science Meeting in Washington, DC 1955: Western Electric began to sell commercial licenses for silicon PV technologies; early successful products included PV-powered dollar bill changers and devices that decoded computer punch cards and tape. Bell System's demonstration of the type P rural carrier system began in Americus, Georgia. Hoffman Electronics's Semiconductor Division announced a commercial PV product at 2% efficiency; priced at $25/cell and at 14 mW each, the cost of energy was $1500/W.." So it took more than a century from discovering the Photovoltaic effect till it was used in practical applications and even 50 years more to be able to say that mass production is cheap enough to be implemented worldwide and poor areas (not that it is for greed and politics reasons). Of course humanity could have moved faster but hey, why care for your fellow mate when you can delay innovation for the sake of exploiting the poor? What is happening with the LENR is just that. The effect exist, maybe even some good advanced devices, but it is not good for status quo business and politics to advance too fast on this technology. ---------------------------------------- [Edit 4 times, last edit by damir1978 at Feb 6, 2019 2:38:51 PM] |
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It was certainly not off by many years or even one year. I'm talking about what was post here about products using the tech being available to buy around that date, 2012. So yes, it's off...way off from that date! It's 2019 and not even an announcement about products. And now with your example, you are now saying oh wait, it will happen...but maybe not in our lifetime! |
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damir1978
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As for Products, based on the information at that time the post was correct. However, life happens and things change. Also I remember that the first "medical" grid I used (Grid.org) using United Device software in 2000 promised that the diseases will be defeated one by one in matter of months or few years due to this novel and very powerful approach (grid computing). 20 Years later this hope was proven as highly wishful thinking even with 100 more powerful grids. It does not invalidate the concept. But yes, the products are delayed beyond the 2012 date that they talked so much of in 2011.
----------------------------------------If you look at the original post in detail you will see that it is more about the science (LENR) than the products. In that post I just put what information was at that time about products. But the post is actually about the LENR effect more than about products. I remember that the big discussion afterwords was also about the existence of the LENR than about products "per se". Do you believe LENR effect does not exist? ---------------------------------------- [Edit 5 times, last edit by damir1978 at Feb 6, 2019 5:54:38 PM] |
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Do you believe LENR effect does not exist? Seeing is believing (ie. Products). ![]() ![]() |
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