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Re: Over 200'000 ppd at home - This is for you

Am doing 1.2 mil to 1.3 million ppd since GPU crunching began. Using a 7870 OC and a 7950 GPU's to accomplish this. Was doing around 150,000 ppd prior using 2 dual hex systems. Hope to have my 3770K system crunching shortly.
Maybe start a 1 million ppd club.
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Since the GPU app I am doing pretty much 1 000 000 +- 50 000 WCG PPD. This is achieved by a 12 threaded OC'd 3930K @ 4.4GHz and a single OC'd Sapphire HD7970 @ 1150MHz GPU. Runing 12 GPU WUs in parallel.

Hypernova, you really do have an impressive setup! I wish I could also do more, but living in a flat I have a bit of a hard time to create such an impressive compute cluster array :) (even though I have a few plans for some expansion)

A bit of introduction perhaps...25 years old, like to build computers and OC, testing different hardware setups. No wife or GF and never had. I got involved with crunching in general at the time of grid.org, and after it was closed down I followed some grid.org team members to WCG. I like it a lot here and the community/projects/admins, everyone seems nice. :)

The reason for starting to crunch was wanting to be able to contribute to the acceleration of medicine and science, helping to find a cure for diseases and increase our knowledge in these areas. But I have never sent money to charity organizations since I do not trust them. And later I found out how much money the CEOs and so forth of charity organizations take each year as salary and I immediately knew I had been correct about them. They are living a luxurious finnacial life on money made up of some already poor citizens' last dollars...no I do not call that anything else but seatling. I often see elderly citizens putting some of their pension into those money containers for charity at supermarkets and knowing that there's some overgrown CEO and his board members sitting on a yacht having drinks and driving million dollar cars...that is not charity to anyone in my eyes.

I Only believe in direct help where I can do something concrete, and WCG is what I found enables me to do it. So, that's at least part of my motive...

Crunching here since 2007 and all-in-all a cruncher since the age of 14-15.

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flodisar, thanks for your post.
And my congratulation to have started so young to contribute. It reminds me that my kid also has accepted to have WCG running on his desktop when he was 16.

Regarding your comment on charities, I would partly agree. You are right for many very large and big charities were a lot of the money goes into structural costs. But as usual all is not black and white. I now some smaller charities that do terrific work in the field and that have their infrastructure costs being carried by the participants themselves so that every dollar is spent directly on the projects.
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flodisar, thanks for your post.
And my congratulation to have started so young to contribute. It reminds me that my kid also has accepted to have WCG running on his desktop when he was 16.

Regarding your comment on charities, I would partly agree. You are right for many very large and big charities were a lot of the money goes into structural costs. But as usual all is not black and white. I now some smaller charities that do terrific work in the field and that have their infrastructure costs being carried by the participants themselves so that every dollar is spent directly on the projects.


Thank you too!
Yes, I have been a cruncher for quite some time. While the other kids seemed to play football...I wanted to build computers (among some other things) and find out how I could best utilize them, if you know what I mean.

Yes, I was merely generalizing my experience of the Big Charity organizations. Most certainly there are A Lot of (mostly) smaller organizations that actually make sure that the help ends up where it is supposed to. There were some scandals here with Red Cross and then media began an invesigation of all major charity organizations (presenting salary information for the ones sitting at the top of the pyramid) and I was disguisted beyond belief I tell you.

So, as you write too: there are very good (often) smaller organizations who get their hands dirty for real, with truly devoted people. But at the same time it is such a downer when the organizations collecting the most of public money put it in their own pockets instead.

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IIRC a charity is considered very efficient if 85% or more of the money it takes in goes to actual programs and not to administrative or fund raising costs. That's a very tough standard to meet btw except for very small, local organizations that have few such costs.
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IIRC a charity is considered very efficient if 85% or more of the money it takes in goes to actual programs and not to administrative or fund raising costs. That's a very tough standard to meet btw except for very small, local organizations that have few such costs.


Yes, perhaps. But, right now it seems like "oh wait, we currenlty have 90% efficiency...we can increase our salary by another $100 000 and no one will notice". In my personal opinion, charity work can not be compared to normal jobs. You don't do it just to make good money, you do it because you're devoted to helping people. Of course you have to live on something too, but by taking hundreds of thousands of dollars every year to be able to live a luxurious life while knowing that excess salary could have been put to good work...

It's the same thing here with elderly care. Private investors make crazy money from it while the facilities are under-staffed and people are not getting their diapers changed every day or are not able to go outdoors for months. That is just wrong!

All I want to say is that if I would have been the CEO of some charity organization I would not have been able to live with myself knowing that I am living in 5-star hotels, collecting $100 000+ cars, flying my private jet and having drinks on a beach, using money that other people have given from their own wallets hoping to help the ones in need.

Basically, if you are rich from a charity career...why did that excess (rich minus normal salary) not reach the ones you are so devoted to help? Oh, and "career" is out of place.

This is from one of the newspapers here when there was that Red Cross Scandal: http://bit.ly/TPQQEi

It is in Swedish but you can see the numbers...where 1 SEK ~ $0.15, so 1 000 000 SEK is around $150 000. As a comparison, if you have a low income here you get somewhere around $25 000/year. Medium income around $45 000/year before tax. And if you are retired, you can divide all the numbers by two - and still, I Most often see retired old, poor people, giving dropping their last coins into those cans at the stores...and it just annoys me horribly - because it is not right.

No, that's why I only prefer means where I feel that I can have a concrete and direct way of making a change - not just dumping cash into a big black hole where the money will never again be found...

Once again, just a generalization and of course there are lots of devoted charity organizations and people. All cred to them for helping research and people!

If only more people would realize the potential of WCG...just think what if everyone on earth with a PC and an internet connection would crunch...we'd have the world's most powerful supercomputer, crunching through all the projects like never before. Then we would see real change. And what if all the people giving money to those large charity organizations would spend them on upgrading PCs...then old PCs could go to children in schools in poor countries while at the same time WCG would constantly increase compute performance. And if so many people get involved with WCG, then it would get governmental funding so that the scientists behind all the projects can hire more people and developt GPU applications for more projects, accelerating research mulifold....

Phew...you get the idea and the unreachable vision I have biggrin
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I see a few on that page who take no fee or just a small fee, but there are some with very large fees.
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I see a few on that page who take no fee or just a small fee, but there are some with very large fees.
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Correct! They probably wanted to show the contrast between some of the people and organizations. Generally, most of them have pretty high salary - in my opinion too high since 2/3 of that moey could have been left alone for the charity work instead without them being poor in any way. It is just greed and pure theft in my opinion. They become millionares without actually having to do any real work or even being devoted to the charity they are supposed to be part of since their whole income is based on people giing them money while thinking that as much effort as possible is put into making as much as possible of the donated amount reach those in need or a specific research.

I belive no one thinks like this: "Alright, I am giving my last $10 from my pension to The Charity Organization so that perhaps 1 cent actually ends up in the hands of those in need, and I must help fund the CEO and all the board members so that they can live a luxurious life instead of doing real work for the people".

And the part that annoys me the most is that nothing is done about it :(
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Fully agree with you in this flodisar. My motivation for crunching WCG projects 24/7 and my perception of "charity" organizations (regardless if they are big or small) are exactly the same as yours
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Fully agree with you in this flodisar. My motivation for crunching WCG projects 24/7 and my perception of "charity" organizations (regardless if they are big or small) are exactly the same as yours


Thank You! It feels good to know, not being alone on this. :3
Now I may sleep better this night!
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