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RCC_Survivor
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Apr 28, 2007 Post Count: 1334 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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This is a test. 1. Your PC runs tasks at high priority, what should you do? 2. How much faster do tasks run at high priority? 3. BOINC is running tasks with later deadlines before those with close deadlines; what should you do? 4. Can you make tasks run faster by running BOINC at high priority? 5. What happens to your GUI response time if you run BOINC at elevated priority? 6. Should BOINC have a user controlled "Run FIFO" option? 7. BOINC is missing deadlines, what should you do? 8. Why is it that on your "My results" page the total run time is all over when you run the same number of hours each day? 9. Where can you get a current snapshot of your BOINC points and RAC? 10. BOINC is showing that tasks are stuck uploading, what should you do? I have answers for those questions; do you? 1. Reduce your queue size. 2. Tasks do not run faster at high priority. 3. This is called round robin scheduling, if you have this go work on your car or get more coffee, but leave BOINC alone. 4. It is considered a newbie mistake to believe this is possible. If you must run BOINC faster consider overclocking or removing unnecessary background programs (create more idle time). 5. Simply stated, you won't have a response. 6. No. The BOINC scheduler will do it for you. 7. Missing deadlines means that your queue is overloaded. Abort the tasks that you know can't be completed on time and reduce your queue size. 8. Results don't count until they are validated so you have to wait for your wing man to return results. So, the day results are completed does not count only the day of validation counts. Unless of course there is an abort, error, etc... in which case the return date counts but you get no credit. 9. BOINC Manager>Projects>Work done is your total BOINC points, and Avg. work done is your RAC. This update's as WUs are returned. 10. If tasks are not uploading and your Internet connection is good then the problem lies with the WCG servers. If you must do something suspend network activity for a number of hours and check back periodically.
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RCC_Survivor
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Here are Burno's answers: 1. Hope my PC knows what it is doing. 2. Way faster than at medium priority. 3. Hope that BOINC knows what it is doing. 4. Nah, I have enough tasks to do around here myself, I can't worry about BOINC, he's on his own. 5. Things get a little sticky. 6. Why not, as long as I don't have to do anything. 7. See answer number 3. 8. My PC likes to loaf around sometimes and gets lazy. 9. At the same place where they explain widgets and thing-a-ma-bobs. 10. Tell BOINC to take a phase 6 with key 22, it works every time. Burno's score: 1 point for getting his name right. I like your answers because it seems you put a lot of thought into them. You should get credit for your work, as deltavee stated. I worked with a guy, initials PEC, that could type faster than Radar O'Reilly, His first action was to push a button or type a period at the end of an input message and then immediately shout "Oh shit, I didn't mean to do that!" Needless to say he was promoted twice.
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RCC_Survivor
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I'd give Bruno a 10 for not obsessing over all of this like some of us do. It is possible to set-and-forget and still keep on crunching. I couldn't agree more, however I was missing deadlines with a 3-day queue. I seem to have a problem with leaving well enough alone (don't fix it if it ain't broke), maybe professional help would be in order. However, I reserve the right to fix stuff that is broke. At the time this post was written both of my i7's are running HCC CPU tasks in panic mode and are no longer missing deadlines. HCC has a normal deadline of 7-days, repairs are 3-days (I have no repairs in queue). My laptop is running tasks due 2/9 high priority; today is 2/6, queue size is 3-days. My desktop has a queue size of 1.5-days and is also running CPU tasks in panic mode. This is the only PC with a useable GPU and is running 2 CPU threads and 6 GPU threads. These tasks have plenty of time to meet the deadline. My solution is to give BOINC time to work this out, which it should.
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RCC_Survivor
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At the time this post was written both of my i7's are running HCC CPU tasks in panic mode and are no longer missing deadlines. HCC has a normal deadline of 7-days, repairs are 3-days (I have no repairs in queue). My laptop is running tasks due 2/9 high priority; today is 2/6, queue size is 3-days. My desktop has a queue size of 1.5-days and is also running CPU tasks in panic mode. This is the only PC with a useable GPU and is running 2 CPU threads and 6 GPU threads. These tasks have plenty of time to meet the deadline. My solution is to give BOINC time to work this out, which it should. BOINC has resolved it's scheduling issues and is now running everything round robin. What started this fiasco was that the recent WCG server outages made me decide to increase the number of days of work in queue. That was complicated by: 1. Running 2 CPU threads and 6 GPU threads on one PC. 2. The mix of CPU and GPU WUs dramatically reduced the number of days until FIFO kicks in. CPU WUs complete in 114 minutes while GPU WUs complete in 23 minutes. 3. The BOINC scheduler seems to have a problem managing mixed WUs within a single project. Even the HCC CPU only PCs will not tolerate more than 3-days of WUs even though the deadline is 7-days out. During this fiasco the WCGDAWS program written by piroque of team XtremeSystems has been very helpful; you can find it here: http://www.wcgdaws.com/ http://www.wcgdaws.com/forums/index.php This is an excellent program that I highly recommend.
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RCC_Survivor
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Thanks new team members for helping to reach number 204 on WCG. Great chart RCC. deltavee, little mermaid, and the rest of the rowdies from team Basecamp gave the Survivors a great boost with their trek here back in September, 2011. And the trend continues with some real 'Power Crunchers' remaining. This is a fun team to crunch with. Now can we go to Disney World?  Great comments grumpygrampy. There have been some great crunchers pass through this team. If you have a SNURK signature this web site will be familiar http://www.wcgsig.com/ A lot of alumni are listed there. If you click on the red ID or gflops color bars you can see more details. Why do you want to go to Dizzy-N-Whirled, the rides give me a headache?
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RCC_Survivor
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The survivors @Teamsurvivors Twitter page now has 1,000 followers.
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nasher
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yes slowly climbing up the ranks.. lost another computer but my 2 big ones and 1 slow one are still going
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RCC_Survivor
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I too just keep crunching along.
----------------------------------------My Dell 2400 (Pentium 4 2.4GHz) should be retired but it gives me 24-hours of run time per day, so even slow PCs have some value. Today I have reached 13 years HCC and 5 years HFCC. I will continue to run those projects until they exhaust. Running GPU has been very profitable for results and points. The only way I can catch up with dl1000v is if he slows down. I hope that everyone feels the importance to science that their contribution makes. It does not matter if you have 1 or 21 PCs, everyone is equally important. Thanks for crunching with The survivors. I believe that the founder of the team "hsuk" would be happy with where the team is today.
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RCC_Survivor
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Milestones Today
----------------------------------------RCC_Survivor passes 9,000,000 BOINC points Metrics Today Top User :RCC_Survivor - 13,209 Users Returning Work : 8/10 (80.00%) Points per user yesterday : 9,424 Users going up : 4 Users going down : 4 Project Rank: 202 (a new high) Weekly Rank Change : up 2 Monthly Rank Change : up 6 Opportunities We will pass Project Rank: 201 IBM System x Technical Support Germany within the next 24-hours. http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=team&proj=bwcg&team=9611
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RCC_Survivor
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The 2nd Tuesday of the month was here so I updated my 4 PCs.
----------------------------------------The Mrs. asked me to update her PC, which I did. Rebooted and left it for her to login. She couldn't login as it would not take her password. I tried it and sure enough her password is failing. It took 3 tries on my PC to burn a password reset CD that worked. The 3rd time was a charm and I was on my way to resetting the password. To do that I had to type her user name and some of the characters would not type. At this point I suspected the keyboard. Switched keyboards and voila it worked. But the PC would not boot into Windows. Had to do a System Restore from 2/7. Because we couldn't login Windows could not finish the updates in progress. To run the reset password CD the PC had to be rebooted. Not a good idea but there was no other way. So the moral of this story is, if your keyboard fails in the middle of Windows Update the PC updates may be corrupted.
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