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kateiacy
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Re: New Beta starting Aug 5, 2011
Here are the details of my Phenom II X4 running 64-bit Ubuntu 10.04.3 (previously summarized in a table):

BETA_ BETA20_ ace_ 0000000_ 0172_ 0-- kate-amd64 Invalid 8/5/11 18:09:02 8/5/11 23:04:06 3.27 86.7 / 59.6
BETA_ BETA20_ ace_ 0000000_ 0089_ 0-- kate-amd64 Valid 8/5/11 18:09:02 8/6/11 04:53:14 3.66 97.1 / 92.9
BETA_ BETA20_ ace_ 0000000_ 0080_ 0-- kate-amd64 Inconclusive 8/5/11 18:09:02 8/6/11 04:53:14 3.24 86.0 / 0.0
BETA_ BETA20_ ace_ 0000000_ 0782_ 1-- kate-amd64 Valid 8/5/11 18:09:02 8/5/11 21:16:54 3.04 81.1 / 83.3
BETA_ BETA_ ace80_ 0000000_ 4955_ 0-- kate-amd64 Valid 7/29/11 23:21:33 7/30/11 01:38:47 2.00 51.9 / 40.3
BETA_ BETA_ ace80_ 0000000_ 3837_ 0-- kate-amd64 Invalid 7/29/11 22:09:25 7/30/11 00:29:32 2.00 52.3 / 23.3
BETA_ BETA_ ace80_ 0000000_ 1737_ 1-- kate-amd64 Invalid 7/29/11 21:09:06 7/30/11 00:07:22 2.02 52.1 / 50.0
BETA_ BETA_ ace80_ 0000000_ 1607_ 0-- kate-amd64 Invalid 7/29/11 21:08:45 7/30/11 00:08:30 2.43 62.7 / 42.4
BETA_ BETA_ ace80_ 0000000_ 0448_ 1-- kate-amd64 Valid 7/29/11 20:27:05 7/29/11 23:21:33 2.38 61.8 / 63.0
BETA_ BETA_ ace80_ 0000000_ 0628_ 1-- kate-amd64 Valid 7/29/11 19:49:37 7/29/11 22:09:24 1.91 50.5 / 50.5
BETA_ BETA_ ace80_ 0000000_ 3560_ 1-- kate-amd64 Invalid 7/29/11 19:31:06 7/29/11 20:57:47 1.24 30.6 / 21.5

Not quite as grim as KerSamson's, but still 55% invalid (assuming the inconclusive turns out badly). This machine crunches WCG 24/7 without other errors or invalids (except on 1 particular batch of DDDT2).

Out of curiosity, maybe I'll upgrade to Ubuntu 11.04 this weekend and see whether that makes any difference on next week's betas. (Probably won't though since everything else is going swimmingly with 10.04.3)

And I'll certainly be curious to see what the techs say!
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Re: New Beta starting Aug 5, 2011
Intel man all theway, first test 7 beta13 , version 6.12 on Linux, all valid, and but for the ''MIA'' time, no issues. Self-centered, throttling no issue since it's 24/7 100% crunch on that box. Not contesting that BOINC has to be in total control, simply because one has to be able to boot and have BOINC shutdown processes properly and within reasonable time and know the tasks will resume from last checkpoint, without being dismissed afterwards because of a single restart bit making the quorum match fail.

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Re: New Beta starting Aug 5, 2011
Kateiacy on the ubuntu upgrade to 11.04 I would make sure you test drive it before you upgrade. I wish I would have checked it out better before I went forward on my laptop. I don't like the unity setup and I seem to have more driver issues on the laptop. It is running an AMD turion on the 64 bit ubuntu 11.04 and had all 3 work units valid on the first batch. I'm still working on 2 for this batch
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Re: New Beta starting Aug 5, 2011
That's fascinating, CP! Are those machines running Windows or Linux?

What's fascinating about that? They just do the job, for what they are hired smile

Phenom I: Windows Vista 64bit
Athlons II: Windows7 64bit
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Re: New Beta starting Aug 5, 2011
This is from the only machine with Linux64 running. Intel Dual Core P8400 laptop.
Because of the amount of inconclusives from other Linux crunchers, it's called now: HOOVER laughing 
BETA_ BETA20_ ace_ 0000000_ 0083_ 2--  999763 In Progress  06/08/11 15:23:01 08/08/11 05:47:01 0.00 0.0 / 0.0 
BETA_ BETA20_ ace_ 0000000_ 0011_ 2--  999763 Valid  06/08/11 11:42:21 06/08/11 16:00:57 4.18 88.7 / 89.8 
BETA_ BETA20_ ace_ 0000000_ 0034_ 2--  999763 Valid  05/08/11 23:54:02 06/08/11 03:17:36 3.26 68.9 / 57.1 
BETA_ BETA20_ ace_ 0000000_ 0921_ 2--  999763 Valid  05/08/11 23:13:24 06/08/11 02:56:02 3.56 75.6 / 58.7 
BETA_ BETA20_ ace_ 0000000_ 0405_ 1--  999763 Valid  05/08/11 18:07:39 05/08/11 22:37:12 3.50 74.5 / 58.1 
BETA_ BETA_ ace80_ 0000000_ 1221_ 2--  999763 Valid  02/08/11 23:20:12 03/08/11 02:43:44 2.44 38.8 / 50.7 
BETA_ BETA_ ace80_ 0000000_ 1748_ 2--  999763 Valid  02/08/11 21:09:37 03/08/11 01:56:27 3.71 59.1 / 70.6 
BETA_ BETA_ ace80_ 0000000_ 0829_ 2--  999763 Valid  01/08/11 17:41:23 01/08/11 22:21:42 4.08 64.9 / 76.9 
BETA_ BETA_ ace80_ 0000000_ 4444_ 2--  999763 Valid  01/08/11 13:57:00 01/08/11 17:56:11 3.28 52.2 / 55.1 
BETA_ BETA_ ace80_ 0000000_ 1667_ 2--  999763 Valid  01/08/11 11:54:27 01/08/11 14:58:22 2.41 38.4 / 36.6 
BETA_ BETA_ ace80_ 0000000_ 2590_ 2--  999763 Valid  31/07/11 11:05:50 31/07/11 14:18:44 2.44 41.5 / 46.1 
BETA_ BETA_ ace80_ 0000000_ 3177_ 2--  999763 Valid  31/07/11 00:13:04 31/07/11 02:38:40 1.96 33.3 / 30.8 
BETA_ BETA_ ace80_ 0000000_ 3448_ 2--  999763 Valid  30/07/11 22:40:15 31/07/11 02:18:33 2.88 48.8 / 56.0 
BETA_ BETA_ ace80_ 0000000_ 1931_ 2--  999763 Valid  30/07/11 18:53:25 30/07/11 21:32:49 2.24 38.0 / 35.4 
BETA_ BETA_ ace80_ 0000000_ 2951_ 2--  999763 Valid  30/07/11 18:49:16 30/07/11 22:27:29 2.90 49.2 / 56.8 
BETA_ BETA_ ace80_ 0000000_ 2191_ 2--  999763 Valid  30/07/11 16:19:26 30/07/11 18:29:11 1.80 30.6 / 36.1 
BETA_ BETA_ ace80_ 0000000_ 1776_ 2--  999763 Valid  30/07/11 13:19:21 30/07/11 18:05:02 1.97 33.5 / 38.3 
BETA_ BETA_ ace80_ 0000000_ 1210_ 2--  999763 Valid  30/07/11 09:24:39 30/07/11 12:47:46 2.62 44.5 / 50.2 
BETA_ BETA_ ace80_ 0000000_ 4641_ 2--  999763 Valid  30/07/11 08:51:25 30/07/11 11:41:29 2.35 39.9 / 47.0 
BETA_ BETA_ ace80_ 0000000_ 0998_ 2--  999763 Valid  30/07/11 05:28:45 30/07/11 06:22:54 0.74 12.6 / 11.1 
BETA_ BETA_ ace80_ 0000000_ 1590_ 2--  999763 Valid  30/07/11 02:52:07 30/07/11 05:17:21 1.94 32.9 / 42.1 
BETA_ BETA_ ace80_ 0000000_ 3837_ 2--  999763 Valid  30/07/11 01:46:08 30/07/11 04:20:18 2.27 38.6 / 23.3 
BETA_ BETA_ ace80_ 0000000_ 4086_ 1--  999763 Valid  29/07/11 22:06:15 30/07/11 02:26:39 1.42 24.1 / 29.0 
BETA_ BETA_ ace80_ 0000000_ 3641_ 1--  999763 Valid  29/07/11 21:21:55 30/07/11 00:07:57 2.20 37.4 / 45.4 
BETA_ BETA_ ace80_ 0000000_ 0416_ 1--  999763 Valid  29/07/11 19:21:25 29/07/11 22:05:45 2.24 38.6 / 33.9 
BETA_ BETA_ ace80_ 0000000_ 2159_ 1--  999763 Valid  29/07/11 19:12:37 29/07/11 21:21:55 1.84 31.8 / 30.4

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Re: New Beta starting Aug 5, 2011
I'm seeing the same results as kateiacy and KerSamson in that my 3 Ubuntu (10.04) PCs have a high rate of invalids (all were Inconclusive) while the Windows PC's have none, as yet. Processing percentage (wall time / CPU time) for all was excelent (99%) running a mix of HCC and DDDT2. I didn't try throttling as all my devices are set for 100%.
These are the only Invalids the Ubuntu PCs have had in months of running HCC and DDDT.
O/S			WU's	PV	Valid	Invalid	Avg PP	Worst PP		Best PP
Ubuntu 10.04 (32)		6	1	2	3	0.98	0.98		0.99
Vista SP2 (64)		8	1	7	0	0.99	0.99		0.99
Win7 SP1 (64)		36	9	27	0	0.99	0.99		0.99
WinXP SP3 (32)		4	1	3	0	0.9875	0.98		0.99


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Re: New Beta starting Aug 5, 2011
Bill --

Are your machines Intel or AMD (and if AMD, which class)?

Thanks.

Kate
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Re: New Beta starting Aug 5, 2011
As you typed the same process name twice I'm not 100% clear. You mean the worker process is continuing, but at very low pace and all the time, beyond the few minutes that others have reported? From the 6.12 test, the project folder on linux shows:

1) wcg_beta13_6.12_i686-pc-linux-gnu (the controller)
2) wcg_beta13_graphics_6.12_i686-pc-linux-gnu
3) wcg_beta13_vina_6.12_i686-pc-linux-gnu (the worker)

D'oh! Copy/paste failure! Yes, that made it very unclear. (I've edited the original post to make sense.)

The first of the 3 controller processes uses small amounts of CPU time no matter what, even when boinc has been told to suspend. Probably not enough to be important, but enough to make it the highest CPU user on a quiet system.
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Re: New Beta starting Aug 5, 2011
Bill --

Are your machines Intel or AMD (and if AMD, which class)?

Thanks.

Kate

Kate, they are AMD, Athlon's, (1) 3600 & (2) 4800's. Old beasts, but they crank out the work wink
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Re: New Beta starting Aug 5, 2011
It's (kinda) the AMD that is causing invalids. If a result is sent out on Linux, the wingman will be Linux as well.

The problem arises because AMD and Intel address their floating point calculations slightly differently and, depending on the project parameters, Intel and AMD processors present different enough results that they don't validate. Once a third unit is sent out, probabilities state it will go to the type with the largest population: Intel.

This causes the two Intel results to match up and the AMD result goes invalid. If the third happens to go to an AMD, the Intel result will invalidate.
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