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Re: CEP2 beta for windows - Version 6.25

Dataman, have you got your Checkpoint flag set - and if so, is there any evidence of it checkpointing?

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Re: CEP2 beta for windows - Version 6.25

No but it restarted at 2 hours so that appears to be the last one it reconized. I'm headed out and will see where it is when I return. This was not exactly on my schedule for this morning laughing

... interesting though. Cheers!

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Re: CEP2 beta for windows - Version 6.25

Dataman, if you do decide to add in that flag, it's a very quick and easy thing to do - as it's in the cc_config.xml file held within your BOINC directory (this file can be edited with a simple text editor such as Notepad whilst BOINC is running, and then simply 'reread again' from the Advance | Read Config File from your BOINC manager).

Anyhow, the relevant changes are;

<cc_config>
<log_flags>
<checkpoint_debug>1</checkpoint_debug>
</log_flags>
</cc_config>

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Re: CEP2 beta for windows - Version 6.25

Just FYI on what BOINC is measuring regarding download bandwidth. I had made the assumption that it was measuring files it downloaded. I can now state that this is not true. It is measuring every interaction it has with the project, even the simple handshakes. Take a look at this log (edited to shorten the lines for readability, but no lines removed):

22/09/2010 16:37:32|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
22/09/2010 16:37:43|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
22/09/2010 16:37:43|Message from server: No work sent
22/09/2010 16:37:43|Message from server: No work is available for DDT2
22/09/2010 16:37:43|Message from server: No work is available for DDT2 (Type A)
22/09/2010 16:37:43|Message from server: No work available for the applications you have selected.
22/09/2010 16:37:53||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
22/09/2010 16:37:56||Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
22/09/2010 16:38:47|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
22/09/2010 16:38:58|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
22/09/2010 16:38:58|Message from server: No work sent
22/09/2010 16:38:58|Message from server: No work is available for DDT2
22/09/2010 16:38:58|Message from server: No work is available for DDT2 (Type A)
22/09/2010 16:38:58|Message from server: Beta - CEP2 requires 128.00 kbps download bandwidth. Your computer has been measured at 126.17 kbps.
22/09/2010 16:38:58|Message from server: No work available for the applications you have selected.

So a project communication failure and a check of the reference site was sufficient "download" activity to drop this machine's bandwidth from above 128kbps to 126.17kbps.

I would therefore suggest that, if anyone is in contact with the BOINC folks and thinks that another project might want to use download bandwidth in the same way that WCG was considering, you might want to suggest that this area needs looking at again. (Always assuming that things have not changed in any release later than the current WCG recommended release (6.2.28), which is what I'm using.)

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Re: CEP2 beta for windows - Version 6.25

Over the course of 5 minutes I hit update 5 times, even unplugged the wifi and reseated to force error and the last time after increasing the cache for a little to fetch a C4CW task, which is a file-transfer-less event. Here are the client_state values (6.10.58):

<bwdown>803554.725176</bwdown>
<bwdown>803554.725176</bwdown>
<bwdown>803554.725176</bwdown>
<bwdown>803554.725176</bwdown>
<bwdown>803554.725176</bwdown>

Each time the file editor messaged that the client_state.xml file had rewritten and changed from last time loading into the file editor, so reloaded.

Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:29:54 AM CEST World Community Grid [checkpoint_debug] result c4cw_target02_012587700_0 checkpointed
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:30:00 AM CEST World Community Grid update requested by user
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:30:00 AM CEST World Community Grid [sched_op_debug] Starting scheduler request
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:30:00 AM CEST World Community Grid Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:30:00 AM CEST World Community Grid Not reporting or requesting tasks
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:30:00 AM CEST World Community Grid [sched_op_debug] CPU work request: 0.00 seconds; 0.00 CPUs
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:30:04 AM CEST World Community Grid Scheduler request completed
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:30:04 AM CEST World Community Grid [sched_op_debug] Server version 601
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:30:04 AM CEST World Community Grid Project requested delay of 11 seconds
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:30:04 AM CEST World Community Grid [sched_op_debug] Deferring communication for 11 sec
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:30:04 AM CEST World Community Grid [sched_op_debug] Reason: requested by project
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:30:31 AM CEST World Community Grid [checkpoint_debug] result c4cw_target02_012560834_0 checkpointed
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:31:10 AM CEST World Community Grid [checkpoint_debug] result c4cw_target02_012591109_0 checkpointed
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:31:20 AM CEST World Community Grid update requested by user
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:31:25 AM CEST World Community Grid [sched_op_debug] Starting scheduler request
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:31:25 AM CEST World Community Grid Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:31:25 AM CEST World Community Grid Not reporting or requesting tasks
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:31:25 AM CEST World Community Grid [sched_op_debug] CPU work request: 0.00 seconds; 0.00 CPUs
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:31:28 AM CEST World Community Grid Scheduler request completed
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:31:28 AM CEST World Community Grid [sched_op_debug] Server version 601
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:31:28 AM CEST World Community Grid Project requested delay of 11 seconds
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:31:28 AM CEST World Community Grid [sched_op_debug] Deferring communication for 11 sec
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:31:28 AM CEST World Community Grid [sched_op_debug] Reason: requested by project
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:33:22 AM CEST World Community Grid update requested by user
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:33:25 AM CEST World Community Grid [sched_op_debug] Starting scheduler request
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:33:25 AM CEST World Community Grid Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:33:25 AM CEST World Community Grid Not reporting or requesting tasks
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:33:25 AM CEST World Community Grid [sched_op_debug] CPU work request: 0.00 seconds; 0.00 CPUs
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:33:26 AM CEST Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:33:26 AM CEST World Community Grid Scheduler request failed: Couldn't connect to server
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:33:26 AM CEST World Community Grid [sched_op_debug] Deferring communication for 1 min 0 sec
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:33:26 AM CEST World Community Grid [sched_op_debug] Reason: Scheduler request failed
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:33:27 AM CEST BOINC can't access Internet - check network connection or proxy configuration.
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:33:55 AM CEST World Community Grid update requested by user
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:33:56 AM CEST World Community Grid [sched_op_debug] Starting scheduler request
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:33:56 AM CEST World Community Grid Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:33:56 AM CEST World Community Grid Not reporting or requesting tasks
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:33:56 AM CEST World Community Grid [sched_op_debug] CPU work request: 0.00 seconds; 0.00 CPUs
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:33:59 AM CEST World Community Grid Scheduler request completed
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:33:59 AM CEST World Community Grid [sched_op_debug] Server version 601
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:33:59 AM CEST World Community Grid Project requested delay of 11 seconds
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:33:59 AM CEST World Community Grid [sched_op_debug] Deferring communication for 11 sec
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:33:59 AM CEST World Community Grid [sched_op_debug] Reason: requested by project
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:35:13 AM CEST World Community Grid General prefs: from World Community Grid (last modified 29-Aug-2010 12:20:05)
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:35:13 AM CEST World Community Grid Computer location: school
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:35:13 AM CEST General prefs: using separate prefs for school
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:35:13 AM CEST Reading preferences override file
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:35:13 AM CEST Preferences:
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:35:13 AM CEST max memory usage when active: 2511.26MB
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:35:13 AM CEST max memory usage when idle: 2806.70MB
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:35:13 AM CEST max disk usage: 10.00GB
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:35:13 AM CEST suspend work if non-BOINC CPU load exceeds 90 %
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:35:13 AM CEST max upload rate: 86016 bytes/sec
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:35:13 AM CEST (to change preferences, visit the web site of an attached project, or select Preferences in the Manager)
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:35:15 AM CEST World Community Grid [sched_op_debug] Starting scheduler request
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:35:15 AM CEST World Community Grid Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:35:15 AM CEST World Community Grid Requesting new tasks
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:35:15 AM CEST World Community Grid [sched_op_debug] CPU work request: 1.94 seconds; 0.00 CPUs
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:35:18 AM CEST World Community Grid Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:35:18 AM CEST World Community Grid [sched_op_debug] Server version 601
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:35:18 AM CEST World Community Grid Project requested delay of 11 seconds
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:35:18 AM CEST World Community Grid [sched_op_debug] estimated total CPU job duration: 10684 seconds
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:35:18 AM CEST World Community Grid [sched_op_debug] Deferring communication for 11 sec
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:35:18 AM CEST World Community Grid [sched_op_debug] Reason: requested by project
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:35:32 AM CEST World Community Grid [checkpoint_debug] result c4cw_target02_012584230_0 checkpointed
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:36:06 AM CEST World Community Grid [checkpoint_debug] result c4cw_target02_012587700_0 checkpointed
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:36:43 AM CEST World Community Grid [checkpoint_debug] result c4cw_target02_012560834_0 checkpointed
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:37:34 AM CEST World Community Grid [checkpoint_debug] result c4cw_target02_012591109_0 checkpointed

another 10 minutes passed and checkpoints logged and a forced update

Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:43:30 AM CEST World Community Grid [checkpoint_debug] result c4cw_target02_012591109_0 checkpointed
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:44:06 AM CEST World Community Grid update requested by user
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:44:08 AM CEST World Community Grid [sched_op_debug] Starting scheduler request
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:44:08 AM CEST World Community Grid Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:44:08 AM CEST World Community Grid Not reporting or requesting tasks
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:44:08 AM CEST World Community Grid [sched_op_debug] CPU work request: 0.00 seconds; 0.00 CPUs
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:44:11 AM CEST World Community Grid Scheduler request completed
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:44:11 AM CEST World Community Grid [sched_op_debug] Server version 601
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:44:11 AM CEST World Community Grid Project requested delay of 11 seconds
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:44:11 AM CEST World Community Grid [sched_op_debug] Deferring communication for 11 sec
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:44:11 AM CEST World Community Grid [sched_op_debug] Reason: requested by project

<bwdown>803554.725176</bwdown>

Find it impossible to force a change without a file transfer. Then as last resort I changed the web device profile and hit update to kick the profile change across and sure enough the log shows a new timestamp for school:

Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:48:14 AM CEST World Community Grid update requested by user
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:48:18 AM CEST World Community Grid [sched_op_debug] Starting scheduler request
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:48:18 AM CEST World Community Grid Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:48:18 AM CEST World Community Grid Not reporting or requesting tasks
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:48:18 AM CEST World Community Grid [sched_op_debug] CPU work request: 0.00 seconds; 0.00 CPUs
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:48:21 AM CEST World Community Grid Scheduler request completed
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:48:21 AM CEST World Community Grid [sched_op_debug] Server version 601
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:48:21 AM CEST World Community Grid Project requested delay of 11 seconds
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:48:21 AM CEST World Community Grid General prefs: from World Community Grid (last modified 23-Sep-2010 00:48:04)
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:48:21 AM CEST World Community Grid Computer location: school
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:48:21 AM CEST General prefs: using separate prefs for school
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:48:21 AM CEST Reading preferences override file
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:48:21 AM CEST Preferences:
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:48:21 AM CEST max memory usage when active: 2511.26MB
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:48:21 AM CEST max memory usage when idle: 2806.70MB
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:48:21 AM CEST max disk usage: 10.00GB
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:48:21 AM CEST suspend work if non-BOINC CPU load exceeds 90 %
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:48:21 AM CEST max upload rate: 86016 bytes/sec
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:48:21 AM CEST (to change preferences, visit the web site of an attached project, or select Preferences in the Manager)
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:48:21 AM CEST World Community Grid [sched_op_debug] Deferring communication for 11 sec
Thu 23 Sep 2010 12:48:21 AM CEST World Community Grid [sched_op_debug] Reason: requested by project

The client state file states, after exiting the file editor and reopening the file:

<bwdown>803554.725176</bwdown>

That's 6.10.58, so this version seems to measure what it is said to measure... the rate of task file transfers.

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Re: CEP2 beta for windows - Version 6.25

FWIW I got 4 betas on my quad (2 sets of 2). Completion times seem short compared to other reports,, from 3.9 to 6.5 hrs. One is left which is approaching 6.5 hours. (2.66 GHz Q9450, Windows XP)

The 3 that have completed are in PV but at least got no errors. Not seeing any more, is this run exhausted?

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Re: CEP2 beta for windows - Version 6.25

Not seeing any more, is this run exhausted?

After just returning 1, I'm not seeing anymore - which, actually is fine by me, as otherwise, I'd be getting to the point of slipping out of the reliability rating (due to returning WU's later than 2 days).

No doubt, the next round of Beta testing won't be that far off wink

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Re: CEP2 beta for windows - Version 6.25

That looks pretty conclusive, Sek. So, maybe the work to qualify a more recent BOINC level with WCG will be worthwhile!

Thanks for checking that out. It makes me feel better.

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Re: CEP2 beta for windows - Version 6.25

I came home and found 11 more in cache on my 3 Windows machines. The message logs say they came in 1 at a time between 7:30 AM and 2:30 PM EST. Wish now I hadn't switched some machines back to Linux. d oh

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Re: CEP2 beta for windows - Version 6.25

Didn't get any WUs, but I'm getting this message
23/09/2010 07:38:29 World Community Grid Message from server: Server can't open database
Are there any WUs left?

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