however many graphs and snark you all send my way

It is not disappearing

http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/N_stddev_timeseries.png

You can't just wish it away and pretend we are in the middle of a climate crisis

It just doesn't wash any more guys - the game is up


Dave

Yet another non-scientifically trained writer quoting Biblical passages to support a personal opinion denying the obvious. David, you are wasting our time with this trivia.

Ah, convenient today up north (the image to the link in the quote), with 1 standard negative deviation:



There is a medical treatment for tunnel-vision... so what then is presently happening at the Antarctic to extend the world view? Oh wait, this moment it's the lower sun for the Arctic and El Niño for the Antarctic... really?



When was the last time the Antarctic sea ice dipped that low that late in summer below the 1979-2000 mean?

Obscured by woolly clouds, this WAS predicted to happen as far back as the early nineties... that initial slight expanding due snow pile-up at 90 degrees south... did I not mention something a few posts up?

The ocean todays, per the British MET... too warm... that's why it's snowing over land with that shifted jetstream... North America again getting a large swath with the Red River region overflowing again. Do ask the people in Fargo about this!



It's THE Inconveniently True.

PS. There's a volcano going on Iceland... wrong latitude.

edit: correct special character morph.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8579929.stm

ClimateGate Review No2

I wonder why these are required ?

I like the admissions of truth on this page

http://climate.nasa.gov/uncertainties/


"scientists don't have much confidence that they know what those triggers are."

"because there are no direct observations of solar output prior to the 1970s, climate scientists do not have much confidence that they understand longer-term solar changes"

"those measurements cannot yet reliably distinguish between types of particulates. So aerosol forcing is another substantial uncertainty in predictions of future climate."

"Current climate models do not represent cloud physics well"

"There is also some evidence that the ability of the Earth system to continue absorbing it [CO2] may decline as the world warms, leading to faster accumulation in the atmosphere. But this possibility isn't well understood either"

"Global ocean data sets only extend back to the early 1990s, so there are large uncertainties in predictions of future ocean changes."

"For just one example, some models forecast less precipitation in the American southwest, where JPL is, while others foresee more precipitation. This lack of agreement on even the direction of change makes planning very difficult. There's much research to be done on this question."

"so our inability to predict what sea level rise is likely over the next century has substantial human and economic ramifications."



So absolutely certainty it's the CO2 then NASA and that the outcome is that we are all doomed?


Or are we on the receiving end of fearmongering based upon incomplete knowledge?


Dave