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Re: Not sure how much longer they will be able to keep crunching in the UK

So it was a spelling error... not the Cutty Sark, but the Cuty Snark.

Sadly the former burned down some years ago during a restoration.

Seen so much handwaving in this thread [and the disappeared one] accompanied by snide variations of laughter that it's become an evolutionary consequence. It's no laughing matter at all. Not in the least.

DA, you are temped, no flat challenged to bring the evidence, all of it, that it Ain't True that man is not changing the planet... it starts with a wavelength of 15 micron. Not the gossip, not the conjecture, no hard evidence that the digit before the decimal is wrong and not the 8th decimal after the sign... evidence that topples the whole. Sadly though the evidence brought against GW never adds up... if it were our planet would be at 200 Kelvin... fortunately 280 ppmv CO2 in the air held earth in a fairly steady state of 13-14C, till about 150 years ago.... since we've helped to let it rise to 389 (Feb.2010). With this and the so-called commited allot of prayer will be needed to not have 2C added in the coming decades and all the dire consequences for farmers in a further destabilizing climate... destabilized meaning more extreme weather events. Is there a trend in that somewhere?

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Re: Not sure how much longer they will be able to keep crunching in the UK

So it was a spelling error... not the Cutty Sark, but the Cuty Snark.

Sadly the former burned down some years ago during a restoration.
It's not dead yet...

Badly damaged by fire on 21 May 2007 while undergoing conservation, the vessel is being restored and is expected to reopen in Spring 2011.

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Re: Not sure how much longer they will be able to keep crunching in the UK

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Yep Sek both the North and South Pole are inside of 95.449% of all the values recorded on this day of the year

i.e. Pretty much right on the button

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How novel this soothing observation, for you, but oddly, that % is continuing to decrease, year after year... needless to observe once more that you continue to miss that bit about extent versus area and surface versus thickness... thickness thickness thick ness... think we've seen that for the month of February... right on the button, continuing on that downward trend.



Betting 10 quatloos that March will be on the downward trend too.
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[OT]The 2 faces of Ancelotti [/OT], raised eyebrow tired
He is still in the UK, but I dont know how long he can keep crunching tongue

The coldest winter in many years, to be followed by the most seasonally adjusted summer in years!
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Whatever, if the coldest winter in many years for UK CET is 0.3C colder than mean [DA's gob smack], than I must say to feel for the English high sensitivity to climate change... which proofs the point that just a little change is enough to get the 2 legged local British organisms to go bonkers over "it's so cold". In Northern Italy, Lombardia and Veneto it was probably colder this winter, with the Alps and Dolomites on their doorstep.
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The cold winter is a result of ocean current change around the UK. The Gulf Stream is slowing down, so less warm water is brought to the UK coast. As the air temperature depends on the sea temperature around the UK, it was colder. It also explains why the summers are getting wetter, but I will let you try to work that one out for yourself.
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Ocean current change... hmm wonder why the North Sea was at the new years dive, 3C warmer than last year... more vapor to make snow when it goes high up... and it did.

Actually, it seems that virtual pump [called something like the NADW (Nrth Atlantic Deep Water pump] over near Greenland just kicked back in full gear last year, so don't worry about your MGS... but the main cause was the Arctic Oscillation reversal that had a longer than DA lifetime negative pitch of -3.41, which pushed that several times mentioned cold Jetstream down to you / northern Europe. Combo'd with El Niño driven H2O air content it turned all white.

A side effect was that where marysduby lives, somewhere east coast USA, they had a coastal sea level rise due to slowing... the amazing effect of gravity and pull some having gauged period of 60cm SLR. When the Antarctic coastal high rise land-fast Ice plates are going [stacked thousand of years snow compilation], some monsters just slipped off floating to Australia, The Antarctic gravity pull will reduce causing SLR elsewhere on the planet... just like that... yes gravity also works sideways... long as there is enough offsetting mass.

Another variable, but we've know that one for longer too. Just waiting on that new miracle variable that has been missed by those 10s of thousands of researcher, physicists included, that will proof that added GHGs, mainly CO2, will magically not do their work starting at the 15 micron wavelength. If we stop today with all fossil fuel burning it's thought that at least 30 years are needed to have the atmosphere re-equilibrate... at a higher global temp. That part of stopping FFB is a pipedream of course. Summary we're already committed to continued climate change for the next 30 years. The Ain't True-ist by their nature will thus posit: "Why then do anything ?" Well, question is, what about our kids?

It also explains why the summers are getting wetter, but I will let you try to work that one out for yourself.


I'm in total suspense on that peer reviewed opinion, but that you will be smacked with heavier more acute down pours had been predicted too, for longer. Not good for farmers... they like regular English drizzle. Think you had an exhibition some months ago in Cumbria what climate change has in store for the Albion... yes it's happening.

Warming oceans btw let loose more vapor before the surface water is being sucked under near Greenland... more salt content in the surface layer, getting cooler and heavier, the size and weight to keep that pump going, self propelling almost. It's kind of the mechanism that drives ENSO too, the alternation of deep ocean, cold water, yes it used to be just 1C being pushed up to take in all those atmospheric extra joules.

PS: Yes, it's the same ~1366 Watts/Meter square at TOA, except there's more never saturating CO2 to bounce the earth's reflected IR around and back again and hand off and bounce back again and again and again, handing it off to anything else in the atmosphere, time and again... yes this CO2 molecule is very dangerous when left as trace gas in the atmosphere. It's used to be okay, once it settled on 280 ppmv... now we're heading fast for > 400... 2015 or there abouts and CH4 adding too, lest that was missed.
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More rain, a trick question maybe thought up in Odiham... more rain, less snow. The mentioned large swath in North America with the already overflowing Red River, and then 2 days later, virtually gone again... red [missing] snow dominating again. Can that be right on a supposedly cooling planet?

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For me right on the other side in the Balkans it going too, fast. That strange red spot on Iceland and in the Pyrenees persisting as does that red blob right east on the Hudson bay coast. Don't think farmers will be happy when the growth season gets serious and no meltwater to irrigate the lands... maybe some flash rains to move the loose top soil off and take the seedlings with them? Saves them a harvest to crop... and improve prices for the remainings.

We've got only one planet and we're prepared to play Russian Roulette with it... that's obvious.
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When a volcano erupts on Iceland (a stumble-upon quote)...

From Francis & Oppenheimer (2004) Volcanoes

An abnormal temperature decline began in Autumn 1783, hitting rock bottom between December and February 1784, when th elowest ever winter average temperature for this region [Eastern US] was recorded ; 4.8C below the 225 year mean…The bitter winter followed an uncommonly hot summer for various parts of the northern hemisphere. For instance, July 1783 is the warmest on record (at 18.8C) in central England except for 1983 (the average July monthly temp for all years 1659-2001 in this record is 15.9C) [NB. not sure that this still stands given the book's publication date]. What is more, the heat wave across Europe coincided with fumigation of the lower atmosphere by Laki’s aerosol. The subsequent picture is less clear. Thordarson and Self found that the European summers of 1784, 1785 and 1786 were colder than normal, but tree-ring chronologies record a warm summer in 1784.


Some will say brrrr, dress up warm, some will go weak in the knees... it might be in the UK if events repeat itself... the effects come with a few month lag, if they come. Some of the aerosols such as from Pinatubo helped plant growth by diffusing light... also a variable we know and put in the multi-run GCR emulations.
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