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Re: Not sure how much longer they will be able to keep crunching in the UK

Could someone explain why felling 9 million tonnes of American timber to burn every year in half a UK, formerly fully Coal, Power Station is so green it qualifies for UK Government subsidies under the Renewables Obligation

What chain of thought came up with that as the best solution for generating electricity ?

http://www.foe.co.uk/sites/default/files/downloads/felled-fuel-46611.pdf
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Re: Not sure how much longer they will be able to keep crunching in the UK

My new friend really needed a nose pat



Ah those 2 grey blue building behind they would be Hinkley Point A and B

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw3b_my7zfE



The earthworks are underway - they are beginning the build of Hinkley Point C



Somerset the land of the big sky


The one closest is Hinkley Point B - still in production



These are the twin Reactor Buildings of Hinkley Point A now beginning it's decommissioning see http://www.magnoxsites.co.uk/wp-content/uploa...Point-A-Lifetime-Plan.pdf


Here's a couple of youtubes about it's construction

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jYS0whIclE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fS5szSyg1xE

Building began in 1957 8 years later it began to produce electricity until 1999

Final site clearance, after removal of all spent fuel and ILW and LLW to Sellafield and Drigg, will be in 2104


... B is still running .... and they are building C

and we will be paying twice the going rate for the Electricity it will produce for 35 years http://newsroom.edfenergy.com/News-Releases/A...opean-Commission-2f7.aspx while we the tax payer underwrite 65% of the £16 Billion construction cost

How is this justified ?

It produces low Carbon electricity to combat Climate Change


For Climate Change see above


My road trip is over

Since working next door to EDF's UK HQ in Gloucester I have visited
Oldbury, Berkeley, Sellafield/Calder Hall/Windscale, Dungeness A and B, Hartlepool, Torness, Dounreay, Chapelcross, Hunterston And B, Heysham 1 and 2, Wylfa, Sizewell And B, Bradwell-on-Sea,Trawsfynydd, and finally Hinkley Point A and B

Nothing about the long trip has changed my mind, I still think we would be better off without them. The Cancer risk, the radioactive waste and the legacy we leave our Children to resolve.

We should instead pursue all forms of renewables (while abandoning Biofuels and Biomass Schemes) such as wind, wave, solar, tidal, hydro, geothermal with a sensible head on that we do need backup as they are unreliable sources of power generation. In the UK that should be Gas using CCGT along with local district heating schemes powered by the waste heat generated. Gas Power Stations when they do go awry - you just switch off the gas tap and allow to cool down. You don't have to contend with a radioactive legacy such as at Chernobyl or Fukushima. We have thousands of years of UK Gas supply sadly, to a Yorkshireman, mostly under the ground in Lancashire http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-23069499

We have no reason to have electricity too expensive to use. We have no reason to be cold and no justifiable reason to build any more Nuclear Power Stations

To be threaten with imminent power cuts due to this lack of foresight is unforgivable

I see reliably unreliable Dungeness B has had yet another reactor trip today

http://www.edfenergy.com/energy/power-station/daily-statuses

A power station producing minus 68MW shut be switched off for good.

Night all from the Country leading the way in Combating Climate Change.

It's a crazy place

Dave
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http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=84698&src=eoa-iotd

Now in its third month, the fissure eruption at Iceland’s Holuhraun Lava Field has spread molten rock across 70 square kilometres (27 square miles), an area slightly larger than Manhattan Island (New York).

With nearly a cubic kilometre of lava poured out so far, it is the largest eruption in Iceland since Laki in the 18th century.

450 kilograms of sulphur dioxide (SO2) are being emitted from Holuhraun each second, or 40,000 to 60,000 tons per day. Since the start of the eruption, Holuhraun has emitted twice as much SO2 as all of industrialized Europe emits in a year, according to Nature magazine.

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In the upper atmosphere SO2 forms highly reflective plaques which have a cooling effect by reflecting the suns rays.

http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/hazards/gas/s02aerosols.php

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http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/n...ledge?CMP=EMCNEWEML6619I2

Is it just me or does this paragraph contain dodgy maths

China’s target to expand energy from zero-emission sources to around 20% by 2030 was “notable”, a White House statement said. “It will require China to deploy an additional 800-1,000 gigawatts of nuclear, wind, solar and other zero-emission generation capacity by 2030 – more than all the coal-fired power plants that exist in China today and close to total current electricity generation capacity in the United States.”



..to expand to 20% it has to deploy more than all it's existing coal fired power stations ?

1000 gigawatts = 834 Sizewell B sized nuclear power stations (or equivalent) ... in 16 years ?

Even 800 gigawatts is 667 Sizewell B's !



By comparison, even borrowing 3GW across the channel, in the UK we will now have difficulty in sourcing more that 50GW on a cold still winter evening.

Did I mention the lights will go out and our number crunching activity curtailed sometime soon?

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There is something inherently dodgy about non-binding agreements: how much time must pass before it is clear whether or not the agreement is pure vaporware.

But happily this agreement looks like the real deal
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Thanks for the chuckle Harriscott
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Clean and safe? So why the need to build underground vaults?

http://www.neimagazine.com/features/featurebu...reays-llw-vaults-4435386/
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http://abcnews.go.com/US/ice-visible-lake-sup...chedule/story?id=26939239


And here we sit, sans tail, in a pan of water over a flame unaware of the ever increasing temperature until it's too late.
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https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/saudi-electric-vies-uk-nuclear-121357382.html


Can be scuppered by Seaweed.. Torness

Status
Load reduced due to potential for large volumes of seaweed at seawater intake.

http://www.edfenergy.com/energy/power-station/daily-statuses
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Dear America and Canada

How's your Global Warming?

Yours

Dave

p.s. enjoying an alarmingly warm year in Old Blighty
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