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GeraldRube
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https://mail.google.com/mail/?hl=en&shva=1#inbox/131f5ac8e64afa8e If you drew a straight line between the Obama White House, Harvard and Martha’s Vineyard, you’d apparently find no real economists judging by the effluvia created through progressive economics in this country.
----------------------------------------But would it be too much to ask if we could have a few people who could just add, subtract, multiply and divide? What exactly is an Ivy League degree worth if you can’t do lower mathematics? I guess a lot less than Sarah Palin and a University of Idaho bachelor’s degree is worth. Go Uof I Vandals! In a quest for a few more “green” jobs that the administration can brag about, the Department of Energy recently announced that they have awarded a Spanish company, Abegnoa Bioenergy, $134 million in loan guarantees for an experimental biomass plant that will create- count ‘em- only 65 “permanent” jobs in Kansas. Say what you want but Palin’s career shows she knows how to divide 65 jobs into $134 million. That skill apparently is beyond the ken of the Hallowed-Halls-of-Harvard-and-Princeton crowd. But it certainly seems like a valuable skill for a president to have. $134,000,000 /65= $2,061,538.46 per job. With these kinds of economies of scale, it would make more sense for the administration to make 65 people multimillionaires outright with that money. Just think: 65 more people they could tax at a higher rate. What’s more fair than that? I mean besides not taxing everyone out of business. But, since that’s not an option.... Oh, I forgot. That makes too much sense for a liberal. They don’t like millionaires. They only like Brazilian, Spanish and progressive billionaires. “This project is part of the Administration’s commitment to expand our advanced domestic biofuels industry,” said Energy Secretary Chu according to BrightEnergy.org. “Investments like these will create jobs and decrease the nation’s dependency on oil by using a sustainable, home-grown transportation fuel that will help reduce greenhouse gas emissions.” Not likely. ![]() [Edit 1 times, last edit by GeraldRube at Aug 23, 2011 11:44:48 AM] |
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Former Member
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Thanks for copying the full mail, GeraldRube, folks can't hit links to see.. oh wait, you have to have a Google account to see where it came from [another ranter of the CFP genes?]. Putting [quote ] [ /quote] (without the space between the brackets), around the text would have made it clear, up front it's not you who's penned the text. You could put the text in words "quote" "unquote" around it... not even a need to put some BBcode in.
----------------------------------------Why a Spanish company? I was viewing a video yesterday on the lack of Conservative enterprising to find solutions to major environmental problems... costs money to develop which translates often to millions per work place, very high skilled, often university degree level to include post doc, such as people we see posting for the CEP2 and DDDT2 projects. With extended sitting on hands, it's governments obligation not only protect the interests of the Conservatives/Haves, but instead all of the people so we can work towards a cleaner and healthier and sustainable future, sustainable in particular. Endless obstructionism has been seen for long by your Palins and Bachmanns and Perrys and Inhofes, so millions of jobs, present and new technology jobs have gone outside of the USA... look at solar panel manufacturing for example. Just look at solar panel and wind deployment in other countries to see how far the USA has fallen behind... Jimmy Carter put a solar panel in the White House grounds... Ronald Reagan removed it. Read this and you might recognize who's who: Climate denial activists’ parallel to anti-relativity movement of 1920s You made your choices and allowed some to make really bad global impacting ones, long before Barack H. Obama arrived... you suffer the consequences. --//-- P.S. At Delft University, they've developed the know-how to very easily, at very low energy requirement, to turn bio-waste into ready to use fuel for cars [no net addition to the environment of CO2]... they're now in pre-large production setup. Another technology, not developed in the USoA... the sun goes up for free, NT does not. [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Aug 23, 2011 12:41:03 PM] |
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David Autumns
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Former Member
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Ah, the ol fast forward, hand flap, arm wave, what else in jobs is in demand?
----------------------------------------You may assert that the 21st Century has seen no warming [extraordinary silence on that front, the sunspot - temperature correlation too and many more questions], the canary in the wharf is though speaking: http://www.iup.uni-bremen.de:8084/amsr/ice_ext_n.png This chart actually shows an average curve for 1972-2008 and at that, opposed to JAXA, computes the 15% ice minimum threshold at 6.25*6.25 km cells over multiple days, where JAXA computes with 12.5*12.5 km cells, and quick fire at that, just as it says on their web-page. Ice conditions have substantially changed, yet by reading the JAXA chart and the annual same date sharp turns, they still have not completely figured out to come up with values of a very high confidence rate. JAXA posted a -102,813 km sq decline in Sea Ice Extent. Another source put it at 50,148 km square, for the same date. Sleep tight, David, even with eyes wide shut, claimed Open Mind or not. --//-- edit: 1972-2008 average that is, including that record low 2007. [Edit 3 times, last edit by Former Member at Aug 23, 2011 3:04:15 PM] |
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Former Member
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Oh, the Alfred Wegener Institute Polarstern as at exactly 90N on August 22. The 55 scientists went about to sample water temperature at various depths and measured sea ice thickness. It was predominantly 90 centimeters. From the NOAA webcam drift maps we know that ice moved approximately 5 degrees there, from about 2 west to 3 east... i.e. that ice has been in that region since April. First year ice used to be 2 meters thick and when measured in March [by AWI] it was 1.4 centimeters... some cold winter that was, not to speak of the summer, so far. 50cm melted off top and bottom, at what solar angle was that?
Here's a picture, freshly posted at their German language AWI blog site: ![]() http://www.geo.de/blog/geo/polarstern-blog If you read the text subbed to the ice thickness plot, it says that the thicker ice, up to 3 meters, is from pressure points where the ice piled up. The thinner is gets, the easier it breaks and than that's happening. Really liking the [calibrated] set up to visually measure thicknesses while the ship moves. ![]() Now what is it you think, David, that CryoSat-2 is going to tell us once it is fully calibrated to do it's freeboard ice elevation trick from space to compute total thickness? More or less ice than PIOMAS and the in situ taken data? Food for thought, but certainly not to all! --//-- P.S. Wish Cryosat-2 would ASAP get it's sign off [give it 6 more months]... one more rug pulled from under some groups feet... Tommy Cooper would manage to leave you still standing, for the next Aint True. |
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Former Member
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This will interest the Arctic sea ice watchers... Polarstern is at the tip of Earth's axle, the USGCS Healy also went out to study the ice.
----------------------------------------Follow here where it is, not completely real time, but seemingly already above 78N: http://www.icefloe.net/uscgc-healy-track-map And bridge webcam photos of the sea up front, hourly: http://mgds.ldeo.columbia.edu/healy/reports/aloftcon/2011/ The latest picture 8.23 at 16:01 hours shows fairly open sea, with some loosely bobbing ice... would not know if this is above or below 15% as counted by various sea ice total trackers, but at various climate observation blogs they've started to call the ice as seen from space as Slush Puppy... we have it also in the coffee shops hear, all spring / summer long. Enjoy, but it is with ambivalent feelings to read the science reports. The Arctic ocean takes is exposed to 175-200 Watts square meter, and when not covered with ice, at those latitudes, 24/7 light this time of year... a substantial change to albedo. The sun fluxes 1.2-1.5 watts or so over it's full cycle, on it's total raw top of atmosphere of 1361.5 (mean SORCE). The Gore-ie details. --//-- P.S. Healy is in the Beaufort Sea, which is currently subjected to a study to get more understanding on the mechanics and main influence reaching the full Arctic: It's called the BG Flywheel Climate System [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Aug 23, 2011 5:08:46 PM] |
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Former Member
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Cant sleep, like in France it's continuous hot here... 2:43AM and 26C on the outdoors digital, optimal sleeping temps per a study +/- 18C. Starry Starry Sky... maybe the very bright moon is radiating too much, though it's a waning crescent phase... Langley was measuring the moon in it's different phases and the back radiation at different angles and the light frequencies to determine which parts of the atmospheric content was doing what, the foundation of what we know now.
Think we've got a poster with an extremely bad karma in here: Lullish Hurricane season and low / behold... Irene is making herself known: Hurricane Irene's path: Forecasting a mammoth storm (PHOTOS) Don't think it will roll off past the British coast this time, but these are known to end up giving it a final trashing in the Arctic region, where the ice is dubbed 'slush puppy'... shredded... mean thickness left not 1 meter. Let's hope it will veer off more east... The USCGC Healy has reached 78.3 North at 23:01, with barely any opposition, and the ice looks.... hmmm not like 1 meter thick. http://mgds.ldeo.columbia.edu/healy/reports/aloftcon/2011/20110823-2301.jpeg Will it survive when the water is several degrees above salty water freezing point? Looks quite sunny where the vessel is now, heading for the Beaufort Sea heart... the mission page shows the expected ice thicknesses for today http://www.icefloe.net/files/foo_235.gif .. a smallish red band with up to 3 meter tick ice. Whatever happened to that foretold, most assured recovery from global cooling? 4 Sunspots, numbered 1271, 1272, 1274 and 1275, on the earth facing side as of this moment. ![]() --//-- |
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David Autumns
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You have to smile
----------------------------------------I just bought a Antec Earthwatts PSU for a new server to power the Global Thermometer It's over 82% efficient 80+ Bronze and hopefully it will fit in the 2U Chassis ![]() here's the rub and the excuse " Note: No Power Cord included. By reusing yor existing cord, you can reduce waste and help protect the environment. " Marvelous ![]() ......off to buy a new Kettle Lead ![]() ![]() |
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The planet's climate system has gone completely potty. The Arctic is seeing unparalleled thinning of the [remaining] ice, some countries experience dismal summers on the NH, the UK is it's usual in the far right, some countries on the SH have colder than normal winter, where JP is it's extra cold, and New Zealand saw the most snow in 50 years [needs vapor]. The Antarctic... well look at this temperature map... up to 20 centigrades higher than normal. 2 Canaries at the top of their voices bemoaning global what?
![]() Math Rutherford, of the Solo Around The Americas, made it through the Canadian Archipelago and is now well into Beaufort, doing 3-5 knots in his little sailboat. Yesterday tracing where other sea going vessels were, hit upon another interesting site: http://www.sailwx.info/shiptrack/shiplocations.phtml Like planes, this system tracks where ships are, and when clicking on the Arctic corner, out zoomed that ocean, and half a flotilla showing to be roaming the icy region. All measuring, temperature of the various strata, salinity, bio-actives, chemical composition. Top *in situ* taken data to check on CryoSat-2. That platform showed on 1st passing 3 meters and more in th...winter, nearly everywhere . It's incomprehensible how by far that largest part of that 3 meter+ ice is gone, an average of 1 meter or less left in 5 million km square ice extent from the 14 million km square there was last winter. Either everyone else is not knowing how to read along the ruler, or the folks that run the Cryosat-2 project have lots of work to do to their ''centimeter exact accuracy'' objective. Personally, and many in the science circles, think it was highly premature and false hopes seeding to release the picture without huge and not to be misunderstood reservation. Whether PIOMAS says 4000 cubic km or Cryosat-2 figures it's 5000 cubic remain. The trend is not up. Food for thought to quite a few, and soon to many more... we better stop going in circulars and face the problem head. --//-- P.S., to anticipate, here's the DMI above 80 North chart http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/meant80n.uk.php. The air temps have dropped below zero Celsius, but are above normal [red line], and the water continues to me way too warm... yesterdays melt per JAXA: 58,593 km square, first pass. Click on the different years, try 2007, the hottest post summer season I've seen while browsing through. If that curve repeats, there's no ice for walruses left to rest on. Stampedes seen. Global cooling does not affect Polar bears only [toxic waste anyhow when dead] |
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toss
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, and New Zealand saw the most snow in 50 years Looking back as far as records go, the district where I live has had snow... 2011 1976 1939 1904 1868 Gaps between snow - 35, 37, 33, 36 yrs. Looks fairly regular to me and certainly nothing unusual that might be considered notable. I'm inclined to call it normal variation. Cheers [Edit 1 times, last edit by toss at Aug 24, 2011 12:57:34 PM] |
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