Yes, that seems to be the way it works, once again, that circular.

Is it not awesome that today by measuring light and light frequencies and variations in emitted light from stars we can compute exo-planet's existence?: http://planetary.org/exoplanets/

Back around the end of the 19th century Langley was measuring light while looking at the moon. Yellow moon, blue moon, red moon, and determining that the different atmospheric refractions could tell him what that thin [to our eyes] tansparent layer was doing to cause the light, in the visible and invisible frequencies [to humans] to change. He figured that the constituent CO2 was doing something and sure enough we know since the mid 50's irrefutably that CO2 is especially responsive to long wave radiation. Recently, in this thread, the high word came out that ''I Never Said...". It does, and now the quibbling over how much. Well, the how much has been a matter of discussion. Got a figure and backup?

Even when the sun is in a ''moderate'' phase, like 0.0093% lower than in 2003, the 21st Century has continued to warm. To speak with Trenberth on the missing element in his model "It's a travesty"... it's Ocean Heat Content. It's still building! There's one frequently in the news who's also got trouble comprehending, but he's got it figured out that doubling CO2 from pre-industrial would increase temps by 1.1-1.3C. We get to that point by ca. 2055 on an exponential path. And that heat wont be evenly spread., as we're already observing.

Just Put the Model Down, Roy [Spencer]

Till next time, food for thought, but not to all!

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P.S. There is no miracle iris that Richard Lindzen was peddling to leave out ALL the additional heat generated from the increase in long-lived greenhouse gasses. Physics is constant, providing such certainties that the Earth will continue to spin the sun for eternity, albeit it's distance increasing by ~15 centimeters per annum, same as the moon is falling away from earth by several centimeters with each earth revolution around the sun. And, we have continued to warm, and certainly not cooled since the start of the 21st century. Roy Spencer's satellite data proofs it:



See, several loops, and it's not getting through! Long Island is overdue to be hit by a hurricane and if those record devastating series of tornadoes to hit the US are not a sign, then continue to do your BAU.

Quite recently one of Einstein's last theories was proven in a particle accilerator, over 100 years after he made the famous E=MC2 equation. Some have tried to stop the LHC, afraid that we'd go poof... And if we do, would we know? Our children will be looking back at us in 40 years, when we're 9 billion and most likely think: Stark Raving Idiots... why did they not act? The Anthropocene epoch is here!

Yes, GeraldRube, that [long persistent] heatwave has nasty, not thought off side consequences.

Yesterday, not at WCG, had a discussion on methyl bromides, ozone layer destructing stuff... this bit dropped in:
You're skilled to find the original discussion and the head scratching why this is allowed in the US. On checking, sure enough, the EPA site has a page on the matter in PDF: http://www.epa.gov/ozone/mbr/CUN2012/2012_USTomatoes.pdf

And then it went on:

Yes, to use George's own invented words ''don't let me be misunderestimated''

Me/Us continue to check there's no US food components in whatever we get at the supermart. Don't think we'll be holidaying anytime soon, state side.

Food for thought and it should be to absolutely everyone!

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P.S. There are 4 Hurricanes brewing on the Atlantic and I did find that a lull in hurricanes was actually predicted [Assigned Google Scholar mission]. This year big fires in the USA, last year AND this year in Russia/Siberia, again [1 million hectares, aka 10,000 km square] burned... it's very hush hush. Those aerosols do something to the air as does Sahara dust blown up, regardless if sea temps in the equatorial band are over 27.5C or not. They are when last I looked. Some, not me, might want to expand their knowledge breadth in that field when parading, that the scientists had it all wrong in the predictions. The big ones set off from East Africa, so watch that space.

There are voices that want to curtail the NHCs funding... no urgency [What else in science and environmental protection is aimed to be defunded?]. Please vote with your brain next year! The world is watching.

*edited to appropriate forum language - ErikaT

edit: The admin edited out word was the common language for cow dung :D

Now, you can stop denying that anything is happening and see some more graphics to make this more global.

Only tracking those which made it into hurricane status certainly makes it seem "worse", doesn't it? A lot also depends on whether we are in La Nina or El Nino years. Great Britain is too far north for this kind of worry.

So far we have 7 named storms, which have remained tropical storms.


You can still die from flooding from a tropical storm, which can remain in the same area and dump piles of rain.

The 2010 Atlantic hurricane season was a well above average season due to a moderate La Nina, with the most number of named storms since the 2005 season.


2005, in which names went into the Greek reserve


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What's the big deal about the Atlantic? The first five storms in the Pacific were all hurricanes, so it's not like the Earth is dead.



We're not done yet.

2011 Pacific typhoons


2011 North Indian Ocean cyclones


and don't forget South Pacific cyclones 2010-11, which are offset 6 months from the north


South-West Indian Ocean cyclones 2010-11

After what is looking like a record cold summer in the UK after the 2nd coldest December in the last 350 years our Government really does want people to freeze to death if it follows this insane policy recommendation.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/aug/18/raise-vat-energy-ministers

This would result in another 14% increase in the price of Gas and Electricity on top of the previously declared increases this year

"The OECD found that the lower rate reduced the incentive for households to improve their energy efficiency."

and the OECD now joins the rest in Cloud Cuckoo Land


See thread title and first post

Dave

The character of climate change part 1--- http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/08/15/the-character-of-climate-change-part-1/