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mikey
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World Meteorological Organisation, Met Office reveal last decade was the hottest ever recorded: http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/clim...ver-recorded-1836778.html http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/2009/pr20091210b.html Global temperature for 2010 is expected to be 14.58 °C, the warmest on record. #FAIL http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/copenhagen-c...be-warmest-on-record.html From the article: "the Met Office said 2007 would be the warmest on record, but it was not in the top five." ![]() You FAIL to dispute that the last decade was the hottest on record ![]() How far back do records go? A couple hundred years is fairly insignificant in the grand scheme of things. ![]() ![]() |
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David Autumns
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http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE5BA13420091211
----------------------------------------Forgive me if I come across as a grumpy so-and-so on this one but I would rather we gave away our tax money for a good cause without this agenda (edit - sorry what I meant to say was I would rather give away that portion of my money that wouldn't be taxed on account of this nonsense to a good cause of my personal choice) Where exactly is this Climate Crisis happening that requires the giving away of Billions of pounds to developing countries and to what end? This week in the UK we had our budget statement in which the UK Gov was going to borrow over 100 Billion Pounds this year to cover their Now tell me if you are 100 Billion in debt to the "World" how can you promise to give away Billions to the World? It is an anathema - much like Man Made Global Warming Dave ![]() [Edit 2 times, last edit by David Autumns at Dec 11, 2009 11:57:30 AM] |
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Khyron
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World Meteorological Organisation, Met Office reveal last decade was the hottest ever recorded: http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/clim...ver-recorded-1836778.html http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/2009/pr20091210b.html Global temperature for 2010 is expected to be 14.58 °C, the warmest on record. #FAIL http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/copenhagen-c...be-warmest-on-record.html From the article: "the Met Office said 2007 would be the warmest on record, but it was not in the top five." ![]() You FAIL to dispute that the last decade was the hottest on record ![]() ...we've been over this - you deny what pro-AGW change scientists have released and said about the data. ![]() |
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mikey
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http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE5BA13420091211 Forgive me if I come across as a grumpy so-and-so on this one but I would rather we gave away our tax money for a good cause without this agenda (edit - sorry what I meant to say was I would rather give away that portion of my money that wouldn't be taxed on account of this nonsense to a good cause of my personal choice) Where exactly is this Climate Crisis happening that requires the giving away of Billions of pounds to developing countries and to what end? This week in the UK we had our budget statement in which the UK Gov was going to borrow over 100 Billion Pounds this year to cover their Now tell me if you are 100 Billion in debt to the "World" how can you promise to give away Billions to the World? It is an anathema - much like Man Made Global Warming Dave We are doing the same thing here in the US, giving away money to less developed Countries. The 'theory' is that if us more developed Countries give the other guys more money they will do it the right way from the beginning, instead of building dirty, pollution dispensing power plants. Whether that works out in the long run is anyones guess. I guess the money could be earmarked for certain types of expenditures but telling some Countries how to spend more than what their annual budget is, may be an impossible thing to accomplish. ![]() ![]() |
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retsof
Former Community Advisor USA Joined: Jul 31, 2005 Post Count: 6824 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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btw the nonsense about India not having any freshwater if the Glaciers disappear is another BBC World News Spin speaking of the monsoon, there is new news:Retsof From what source do you get your water? A Melting Glacier? I thought not Now have a think again which nation is famous for it's Monsoon? Which Country is an Umbrella Salesman's dream? Right so where does the vast majority of the fresh water come from in India? And what would a cooling environment do to a currently melting Glacier? Make it create more or less fresh water? Exactly Why take everything you are told at face value? As it has now been shown...you really shouldn't Stories with an underlying agenda are simply propaganda and we, the Citizens of the Globe, have been systematically lied to. That's the fact. Possibly the only fact you can now rely on regarding MMGW or AGW aka Climate Change. Night Dave http://climateprogress.org/2009/12/08/world-m...hottest-decade-on-record/ In India the poor monsoon season caused severe drought impacts in 40 per cent of the districts. The north-western and north-eastern parts of the country were badly affected. It was reported to be one of the weakest monsoon seasons since 1972….
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retsof
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You FAIL to dispute that the last decade was the hottest on record ![]() http://climateprogress.org/2009/12/08/world-m...hottest-decade-on-record/ a little more from the WMO page talking about the last decade: And, for the record, WMO does not just rely on the Hadley/CRU data: This press release was issued in collaboration with the Hadley Centre of the United Kingdom Meteorological Office; the Climatic Research Unit, University of East Anglia, United Kingdom; the National Climatic Data Center, National Environmental Satellite and Data Information Service, and the National Weather Service under NOAA; and the National Snow and Ice Data Center in the United States. Other contributors are the NMHSs of Algeria, Argentina, Australia, Brazil, Canada, China, Colombia, Finland, France, Germany, Iceland, India, Japan, Morocco, Spain, Sweden, Tunisia, Turkey and Uruguay. The African Centre of Meteorological Applications for Development (ACMAD, Niamey), the Australian Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization (CSIRO), the Centro Internacional para la Investigación del Fenómeno de El Niño (CIIFEN, Guayaquil, Ecuador), the Intergovernmental Authority on Development (IGAD) Climate Prediction and Applications Centre (ICPAC, Nairobi, Kenya), the Southern African Development Community (SADC) Drought Monitoring Centre (SADC DMC, Gabarone, Botswana) and the World Climate Research Programme (WCRP) also contributed. Global Surface Temperature Trend : Result from three Global datasets: NOAA (NCDC Dataset) , NASA (GISS dataset) and combined Hadley Center and Climate Research Unit of the University of East Anglia (UK) (HadCRUT3 dataset) ![]()
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David Autumns
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/copenhagen/article6956783.ece
----------------------------------------Phew and I was thinking I would have to wait another 5 years to demonstrate that Al misled the World's media in his Nobel If you would like to see the live evidence of a non-disappearing North Pole here's that link again http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/en/home/seaice_extent.htm Night ... it's pitch black, freezing and snowing outside Wrap up warm folks Dave ![]() |
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retsof
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/copenhagen/article6956783.ece Phew and I was thinking I would have to wait another 5 years to demonstrate that Al misled the World's media in his Nobel Peace non-science Prize speech The link also gives a more realistic number but even this was sooner than thought a few years ago. Others said that, even if quoted correctly, Dr Maslowski’s six-year projection for near-ice-free conditions is at the extreme end of the scale. Most climate scientists agree that a 20 to 30-year timescale is more likely for the near-disappearance of sea ice. If you would like to see the live evidence of a non-disappearing North Pole Did you read the explanation closely in your link? It contradicts your ideas. here's that link again http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/en/home/seaice_extent.htm Night ... it's pitch black, freezing and snowing outside Wrap up warm folks Dave We may change the policy (i.e., filling the [North Pole] gap with full coverage of sea ice) in the near future due to the recent drastic reduction of Arctic sea ice. We will announce this if it is implemented.
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Somervillejudson@netscape.net
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Opinions are great, but just that.
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mikey
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Opinions are great, but just that. Unfortunately Al Gore is just trying to keep his name 'in the news' and in the process has made a mockery of the whole conference. Even the guy who's stats Al used said he didn't say that! Back when Al was from Tennessee he was a guy who was seen as 'environmentally friendly'. Now he is seen as a 'pain in the butt' and just plain wrong on as many things as he can talk about! He has kernels of truth but always seems to find a way to go beyond them and into the realm of what he thinks people want to hear him say. If he could find a way to keep to the facts and not embellish them, he could be an imposing force in environmental conferences and speeches. He has supporters, he just seems to find a way to keep losing more and more of them everytime he opens his mouth! ![]() ![]() |
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