The earth is also a bit farther away from the sun than illustrated here. Scale of the picture is unknown.

There is a community solar system in Boston, with a 3.5 meter sun shrunk by a factor of 400,000,000 from the real one. To get to the earth, it is a 10 minute walk.

http://www.mos.org/sln/wtu/css.html

The last time I looked, Pluto was demoted and was not a planet anymore.

Neptune is present in that picture above. When Voyager passed it, it took a picture of the planets it could see.



Here's what the size of the sun actually looks like from the earth in case you missed it. I realize that it is mostly cloudy in England.



Also consider the inverse square law. If we are twice some distance as far away, we only get 1/4 of the light as before.

Go out to a sphere of radius 1 astronomical unit, the earth's orbit.

You take the cross sectional area of the Earth (pi*RE**2) as a fraction of the surface area of a sphere of radius 1AU (4*pi*AU**2).

The earth receives about 2.2 billionths of all sunlight possible. Most of the rest is wasted.

So Man Made Global Warming?

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/12/08/taking_liberties/entry5933353.shtml


and all that has spun out of this farce?

Including my first post in this current series


Am I correct to be angry about this?


I think justifiably so

and I expect you are too

As I said all along the Science will out. I just didn't expect it to be quite so soon

Night
Dave

btw the nonsense about India not having any freshwater if the Glaciers disappear is another BBC World News Spin

Retsof

From what source do you get your water?

A Melting Glacier?

I thought not

Now have a think again which nation is famous for it's Monsoon?

Which Country is an Umbrella Salesman's dream?


Right so where does the vast majority of the fresh water come from in India?

And what would a cooling environment do to a currently melting Glacier? Make it create more or less fresh water?

Exactly


Why take everything you are told at face value?

As it has now been shown...you really shouldn't

Stories with an underlying agenda are simply propaganda and we, the Citizens of the Globe, have been systematically lied to.

That's the fact. Possibly the only fact you can now rely on regarding MMGW or AGW aka Climate Change.


Night

Dave

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=514684

Posted 12/08/2009 08:08 PM ET

The Dow-Jones Industrial Average is a well known stock average, but the 30 "Industrials" contained in it come and go. That does not destroy the average. When it started in 1896 there were only 12. Does anyone remember who they were?

- American Cotton Oil Company, a predecessor company to Bestfoods, now part of Unilever.
- American Sugar Company, became Domino Sugar in 1900, now Domino Foods, Inc.
- American Tobacco Company, broken up in a 1911 antitrust action.
- Chicago Gas Company, bought by Peoples Gas Light in 1897, now an operating subsidiary of Integrys Energy Group.
- Distilling & Cattle Feeding Company, now Millennium Chemicals, a division of LyondellBasell, now in Chapter 11 bankruptcy.
- Laclede Gas Company, still in operation as the Laclede Group, Inc., removed from the Dow Jones Industrial Average in 1899.
- National Lead Company, now NL Industries, removed from the Dow Jones Industrial Average in 1916.
- North American Company, an electric utility holding company, broken up by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) in 1946.
- Tennessee Coal, Iron and Railroad Company in Birmingham, Alabama, bought by U.S. Steel in 1907.
- U.S. Leather Company, dissolved in 1952.
- United States Rubber Company, changed its name to Uniroyal in 1961, merged with private B.F. Goodrich in 1986, bought by Michelin in 1990.

That is certainly possible, and it is certainly more detailed now. It's the speed of the current change that is the problem, as opposed to thousands or millions of years for previous events, including the very warm Carboniferous Era lasting 60 million years from 359 million to 299 million years before present. The emissions in all of those stacked fossil fuels has been rapidly released during the last few hundred years. Some projections are that we have used 50% of available oil and coal can last no more than 500 more years if the Chinese don't burn it all up first in coal mine fires. That does not yet compare to coal burned for energy, but consumes 200 million tons of coal per year. We have certainly found the easy oil. A successful new well in the Gulf of Mexico, known as Jack 2, reached a record total depth of 28,175 feet, coming in 7,000 feet of water, and more than 20,000 feet under the sea floor. It will cost ever more energy to recover the same amount of energy.



from the skeptic/response link above:



The hypocrisy of politicians and private jets cannot be disputed. They don't have any money of their own, so waste ours.