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I say let it warm up and let "life" adjust to it like we have been doing since the beginning of our existence here on earth. Read about methane clathrate in the permafrost then revisit your little "idea". It wouldn't just warm up; it's a positive feedback loop: higher temps melt permafrost which releases lots of methane which raises temps which melts more permafrost which releases more methane... |
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retsof
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Move to Iceland. It's bankrupt. No thanks. It's fine for the tourists but too expensive now for the locals since the banks collapsed.Everything is being blamed on global warming. It's laughable. Sure, why not? Global warming jokes can be blamed on hot air from politicians.Too hot...global warming Too cold...global warming. Too much rain...global warming. Not enough rain...global warming. It's a joke!
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retsof
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I say let it warm up and let "life" adjust to it like we have been doing since the beginning of our existence here on earth. Read about methane clathrate in the permafrost then revisit your little "idea". It wouldn't just warm up; it's a positive feedback loop: higher temps melt permafrost which releases lots of methane which raises temps which melts more permafrost which releases more methane...  [or stupidity]another problem: ...a mature boreal forest may contain five kilograms per meter squared of stored carbon. But the same area of permafrost soil can contain 44 kilograms, and 80 percent of that could be lost over long-term warming. "The bottom line," he said, "is that you can't grow a big enough forest to offset the carbon release from the permafrost."
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retsof
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I'm going to put a different spin on it... Homo Sapiens has only been around for 2.4 million years or 6013 years, depending on who you believe. Neither is long enough to have gone through extremes of snowball earth 2.3 billion years ago or greenhouse (carboniferous) which ended 299 million years ago.I say let it warm up and let "life" adjust to it like we have been doing since the beginning of our existence here on earth.
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I say let it warm up and let "life" adjust to it like we have been doing since the beginning of our existence here on earth. Read about methane clathrate in the permafrost then revisit your little "idea". It wouldn't just warm up; it's a positive feedback loop: higher temps melt permafrost which releases lots of methane which raises temps which melts more permafrost which releases more methane... Sounds good to me.  |
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mikey
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I'm going to put a different spin on it... I say let it warm up and let "life" adjust to it like we have been doing since the beginning of our existence here on earth. Move to Iceland. http://ubergeek.tv/article.php?pid=55  The problem is IF we go back to Snowball Earth times, the ice was over 100 feet thick in the middle of the ocean and the only life that survived was life that lived in COLD water. If we were to go to the times after Snowball Earth, it got so hot no one on land could have survived that either. The Earth seems to go thru extremes and we humans seem to be designed for a very small range and would therefore probably not survive those extremes. That is part of what drives both sides of this argument...the feeling that we may not be here if it really is happening and if we did not cause it, how can we stop it, or at least slow it down so we have a longer time. It may well be inevitable but with the current controversy that may not be proved for a while yet.   |
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World Meteorological Organisation, Met Office reveal last decade was the hottest ever recorded:
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/clim...ver-recorded-1836778.html http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/2009/pr20091210b.html Global temperature for 2010 is expected to be 14.58 °C, the warmest on record. |
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Khyron
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World Meteorological Organisation, Met Office reveal last decade was the hottest ever recorded: http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/clim...ver-recorded-1836778.html http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/2009/pr20091210b.html Global temperature for 2010 is expected to be 14.58 °C, the warmest on record. #FAIL http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/copenhagen-c...be-warmest-on-record.html From the article: "the Met Office said 2007 would be the warmest on record, but it was not in the top five." |
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Khyron
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Scientist #1: "So, what do we do?" Scientist #3: "We tell them that next year is going to be the Ecopolypse. Hell on Earth. The hottest on record. If they're not scared any more, then we need to crank it up to eleven. New York under water. Polar bears stalking the streets of London. Artic beach vacations." Scientist #2: "But models say that it's going to be relatively cool!" Scientist #3: "So what? When have our models ever been right? Our climate models suck so completely that Tiger hit on them at the last British Open. It's a no-lose proposition. Sure, we'll probably get it wrong and then we'll have to hope the media will cover our asses. But they've been solid on the CRU leak, and if we get it right, we're @*%#(%^* gold!" Scientist #1: "Actually, if I run Mike's Nature trick on the latest GISS numbers, it could be 0.2F hotter next year." Scientist #3: "&*%* that 0.2F! We need one whole $*%$&(#$*%&$*% degree. It's got to be simple enough that every idiot dumb enough to take this $*%! literally will do a linear extrapolation and panic when they realize that in a century, it will be 100 degrees hotter!" Scientist #2: "You really think we can get away with it?" Scientist #3: "Why not? We did in 2007." Climategate: a prediction [Edit 1 times, last edit by TXVB at Dec 11, 2009 4:10:06 AM] |
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World Meteorological Organisation, Met Office reveal last decade was the hottest ever recorded: http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/clim...ver-recorded-1836778.html http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/2009/pr20091210b.html Global temperature for 2010 is expected to be 14.58 °C, the warmest on record. #FAIL http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/copenhagen-c...be-warmest-on-record.html From the article: "the Met Office said 2007 would be the warmest on record, but it was not in the top five." You FAIL to dispute that the last decade was the hottest on record |
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