You all still dont get it!
JUST LOOK AT FEB 23rd as a perfect example!!!
3402 poinits awarded on site 327.9 awarded on the client.
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WHAT IT SAID I EARNED AND WHAT WAS ACTUALLY AWARDED TO THE CLIENT is EXCESSIVELY different.
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IT DOES NOT MATTER HOW MANY DEVICES, HOW FAST, HOW LONG
I'VE BEEN DOING IT OR ANYTHING!
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I TRIED for a 'sharp' rise in my points graph, which did NOT happen as it should have, after holding back DAYS of processing from being uploaded from 2 of 3 systems!
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The graph should have changed about 4x any other change in the graph, but because of them 'loosing' or 'scaling' points it looks like any other 'normal' day of processing!
Very wrong!
IS IT BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT I CHEATED?
Because the amount of points was higher than I normally earn in a day?
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I checked previous days OF THIS MONTH and NOT ONE shows the same points as 'earned' . (not 7to1 either)
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The Feb 23 total shows me the points are not as stated and there must be some reason why they 'loose' points when crediting them.
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RE:Didactylos response...
"The actual scaling factor is not published officially, because most members trust World Community Grid to do all this reliably."
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Isn't this what we did with the banking system?
and look where it got the U.S.A.!
Not even the banks executives or brokers are being held responsible!
JUST LOOK where trusting someone to do something (hidden) reliably got this country, and you expect everyone to trust them?
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BY THE WAY where did you (Didactylos) come up with 'Scaling factor'?
I don't see it anywhere....on their web pages
(exclude the forums as they are NOT official, if something is official it would be shown on their web page.)
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IF THEY HAVE A 'scaling factor' why do they not mention it on the points help page?
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WHY are you all trying to PROMOTE incorrect math and points?
Why are you trying to protect a flawed point system?
Could it be because you know the owners of the site and don't want them to have to do something besides collect the income?
HAVE THEM FIX THIS INSTEAD OF HIDING IT or being deceptive about how they choose to reduce the amount earned points from the awarded points!
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Since the points are not worth anything why not either reduce the 'awarded' points to be equal to what is sent to the client or send the actual 'awarded' points...
WHAT IS WRONG WITH WANTING ACCURATE ACCOUNTING OF THE WORTHLESS POINTS?
WHAT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND ABOUT GETTING MATH ACCURATE?
like the following shows, the WCG-BOINC math changes daily.... why?
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STICK WITH TWO DAYs
Feb 23rd 3402 earned awarded 327.9 almost -10.5 to 1
Feb 20th 1251 earned awarded 51.77 almost -25 to 1
IF THEY USE SCALING OR 7 to 1 NEITHER OF THESE 2 days
are the same, WHY?
The same systems were used on those days.
Why the big differnce between 25 to 1 and 10.5 to 1....
Why does the scale change daily? or with different data units?
HOW DO THEY JUSTIFY SAYING I EARNED X# and only awarding
a randomly scaled amount?
WHERE ARE YOUR BRAINS?
CAN'T YOU SEE THE NUMBERS DO NOT ADD UP?
Your explanation-s makes no sense as the math still does not add up.
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IF what is being told me about points here is accurate and truthfull,
Then WHY IS BOINC AND WCG not putting that info on the points help page?
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I think because it's not accuate, they don't do 7to1 and if they scale the scale changes to suit their reasoning, so they can't post that, or EVERYONE WOULD KNOW THIER POINT SYSTEM IS FULL OF ERRORS.
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It appears from my points its best to hold back as many data units as possible before sending them as the scale is 'better' on awarding points closer to the amount earned when you have earned thousands of points in a day instead of hundreds...
It appears that with higher earned points it's close to 10.5 to 1 with lower points perday its closer to 25 to 1.
*............... 25to1, 1000earned=40credited
its closer to 10to1, 5000earned=500credited
IF THEY POSTED THAT 'scale' everyone would 'hold' as many data units as possible as long as possible.
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Sekerob as for my sign up date, this has NO bearing on the FEB 23 or any other dates points...let's not get stuck in the past.
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Thanks again for trying, but I highly doubt anyone can explain the blatent errors in the points system.... as it's intentional on their part!
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They should post the same number of points to the client as earned, then this would close this discussion and no trust needed.
OR
They should POST on the points help page that they 'scale' or the 'reason' why some points are awarded at (aprox) 10.5to1 and some at 25to1 ON THE SAME SYSTEMS just days apart!
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They ARE GETTING PAID BY OUR WORK our electricity and wear and tear on our computers, they should at least 'honor' us
by being honest and accuate with the 'worthless' points.
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**edited for intolerance**tkh

What you see on the website (My Grid) is the total of WCG points you have earned with the UD agent AND with Boinc agent(s).
What you see on the client is the total of Boinc credits you have earned with Boinc agents only.
Your Boinc credits are equivalent to 53,647 * 7 = 375,529 WCG points.
So, if you look at your "Stats by device" page. as I said you should find one line corresponding to a UD device with a total of about 680,176 - 375,529 = 304,647 WCG points (if you have several UD devices their total should be close to that).

If you do not find at least one "United Devices" line you have probably not checked that the filters were set to "anytime (all devices)" as I said.

From what I can read in your posts my brain is in better shape than yours, despite my age.
Since you seem to have difficulty to follow a script here is an example based on my own stats a short time after todays mid-day update:

My devices as shown on the Stats by devices page:

Agent Type/Device Name/Last Results Returned/Total Run Time/Points Generated/Results Returned
Boinc	JB-SV-24HT	26/02/09	2:043:07:54:25	856755	4027
Boinc	JmB-6600-Ub32	25/02/08	0:001:00:35:11	1834	28
Boinc	JmB-6600-Ub64	16/01/09	1:171:07:29:59	1884492	4265
Boinc	JmB-6600-Ub64	25/02/09	0:090:12:15:17	314986	648
Boinc	jmb-6600-ww	26/02/09	2:049:00:44:57	2323542	5588
UD	JB-SV-24HT	11/06/08	1:083:23:16:22	344834	919

And here is the computation:

Total WCG My Grid: 5728357 Points
Total UD: 344834 Points
WCG – UD: 5383523 Points
(WCG-UD) / 7: 769074.71 Credits
Total BoincStats: 768995.75 Credits
Difference: 78.96 Credits

And regarding Boinc devices alone and what my clients are showing, it is as follows:

Total Boinc Devices: 5381609 Points
/ 7: 768801.29 Credits
Total Client: 769343.65	Credits
Difference: 542.36 Credits (results returned validated since the stats update

Cheers. Jean.

Edit: Replaced "returned" by "validated" just above.

JUST ME HUH EXPLAIN THIS<
and FORGET HISTORY...
CHECK 2 DAYS and EXPLAIN WHAT MADE THE NUMBERS SHOW THE WAY THEY DO?
as quoted from my previous post
"STICK WITH TWO DAYs
Feb 23rd 3402 earned awarded 327.9 almost -10.5 to 1
Feb 20th 1251 earned awarded 51.77 almost -25 to 1
IF THEY USE SCALING OR 7 to 1 NEITHER OF THESE 2 days
are the same, WHY?
The same systems were used on those days.
Why the big differnce between 25 to 1 and 10.5 to 1....

Scribe.... IF YOU CAN'T say something usefull.... your useless

If you don't tell us where you are picking these numbers from we have no chance to explain them to you.
I can assume that you picked 3402 and 1251 from your daily stats history (but I cannot see them so it would be better to say it explicitly), but what about 327.9 and 51.77? Where are you finding these numbers?

According to your BoincStats page you have validated
572 credits on Feb 24, i.e. 4004 WCG points
265 credits on Feb 20, i.e. 1855 WCG points
which is much closer, knowing that WCG daily figures and BoincStats daily figures never match day for day because of different daily update schedules (that's why we always work on longer periods when checking anything).

Please take the time to document your sayings correctly. If only to acknowledge the time we spend trying to help you understand. Jean.