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Sgt.Joe
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Finally got my rig built. 1st one ever done. Anyone on the team running windows 7? Need some tweeking advice as I haven't been on windows in awhile. Getting system lockups so not sure if its boinc or the higher memory I put in it. Ordered what supposed to have so should be in couple days.



What are the error messages you are getting ? When is it locking up ? what operating system are you using ? Is it locking up during the boot cycle or after the operating system has already kicked in ? What programs, if any, are are you running when it locks up ? And, just a long shot, is it overheating?

I am sure there are other pertinent questions to try to narrow down what the cause might be, but let's start here, unless someone else has a better idea.


And to Warpedcow: Thanks, that is an intersting setup.
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Nice! The only thing I would change is the 5400 rpm drive with a 7200 rpm drive. It makes a world of difference.


The 7200rpm drives cost more, and had a lot more complaints of failures in the newegg comments. Plus, this drive, at least for the time being, is going in a partial RAID1 with an old 250GB ATA drive and I'm sure it can keep up with that! Also, having all that crammed next to my 4x750GB array, the 5400rpm puts out far less heat which is always nice, and I don't really need huge disk I/O for anything I do anyway - besides, even a small array of 5400rpm drives will saturate my gigabit ethernet LAN.

Your reasoning sounds good to me. cowboy None of my systems are raid. I do have 2 systems that are scsi adaptec 320s with 7200rpm drives. Too bad these systems are the 5 year old 2.8ghz xeon (first gen Hyp thd). Not real fast when it comes to crunching compared to a 1.8ghz core 2 duo. thinking
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Re: Minnesota Crunchers

Finally got my rig built. 1st one ever done. Anyone on the team running windows 7? Need some tweeking advice as I haven't been on windows in awhile. Getting system lockups so not sure if its boinc or the higher memory I put in it. Ordered what supposed to have so should be in couple days.


Download MemTest86 and burn the bootable ISO of it. Run it for at least TWO passes at whatever speeds/voltages you're going to run. Lots of RAM requires you to set a SPECIFIC voltage in the BIOS! The default "auto" setting often undervolts and it becomes unstable.

Once that's stable, boot Windows (any flavor) and download Prime95 and run the stress test on all cores, for at LEAST 12 hours, preferably 24. If it detects any errors it will stop, then you get to dig around for the problem some more. Also, watch the CPU temp with RealTemp (assuming a Core 2 processor, I'm not sure if it works on the i7). For AMD systems use SpeedFan I guess. Using a good aftermarket HSF, a Core 2 Quad should stay under 65C on all cores unless you overclock, if you do, make sure they all stay under 80C.

Also, if you detect errors with MemTest or Prime95, you may have a corrupted OS install, and you might as well redo that as soon as you get the hardware stable.

One other comment on my own build detailed above - you could easily get a cheaper case and power supply and video card if you don't have a massive RAID array, nor care much about gaming performance. If so, you could change those things and come out probably $200 cheaper or more.
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Saw 50 once. Grew tired of it after a year and gave it up like a bad habit. laughing laughing laughing

Enjoy all of your birthdays. You only get each one once.

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Really?? I was going to retire with 30yrs at being ONLY 19 yrs old. I don't get older just another year of experience biggrin
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Saw 50 once. Grew tired of it after a year and gave it up like a bad habit. laughing laughing laughing

Enjoy all of your birthdays. You only get each one once.

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Really?? I was going to retire with 30yrs at being ONLY 19 yrs old. I don't get older just another year of experience biggrin


My mind still says I'm 16 and should be able to do all the things I was capable of at that age. Unfortunately, or fortunately sometimes, my body turns a deaf ear and refuses to permit some activities. laughing

Congratulations on being an "experienced" 19 year old.

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I'm going to get myself an octo-mac here in a month or so. That should boost me points a bit. wink
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The new rig has 2 dual core xeon chips. Runing windows 7. Supposed to run 667mhz memory fb dimms but had 2 1gb 800 MHz from my mac pro laying around so popped them in. I had to remove the heat spreaders from 1st dimm due to space limitation on mobo. Think it's a heat issue though on the dimm. Running wcg with 2 wu's crunching. It would lock up after a bit. Put the heat spreader back on, shaved one side so it would fit and so far no lockup. Order the 667 dimms so when they are in I will crunch 4 to see what happens. Doing the 200 hour burn in before going 24/7.

The mac pro is great for 8 cores crunching but cheaper to build one.
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The new rig has 2 dual core xeon chips. Runing windows 7. Supposed to run 667mhz memory fb dimms but had 2 1gb 800 MHz from my mac pro laying around so popped them in. I had to remove the heat spreaders from 1st dimm due to space limitation on mobo. Think it's a heat issue though on the dimm. Running wcg with 2 wu's crunching. It would lock up after a bit. Put the heat spreader back on, shaved one side so it would fit and so far no lockup. Order the 667 dimms so when they are in I will crunch 4 to see what happens. Doing the 200 hour burn in before going 24/7.

The mac pro is great for 8 cores crunching but cheaper to build one.


Forgot to mention, it's 64 bit windows 7.
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The mac pro is great for 8 cores crunching but cheaper to build one.

500 bucks, lease buy out. biggrin
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The mac pro is great for 8 cores crunching but cheaper to build one.

500 bucks, lease buy out. biggrin


Yours or from someplace else? What kind of specs? Anymore available?
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