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Finally someone with political clout is calling the only logical Iraqi anti-terror, pro-unity strategy.
Bombs Kill at Least 30, Suddenly Ending a Calm Spell in Baghdad Published: February 28, 2006 The national security advisor, Mr. Al-Rubaei, spoke to reporters in the southern city of Najaf after meeting with Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, the Shiites' most revered cleric. Mr. Al-Rubaei said that the ayatollah had "called on all Iraqis to build bridges of trust between Sunni and Shiites to enhance national unity." But Mr. Sistani "diagnoses the basic and only enemy to Iraqi people as terrorism, and he called on Iraqis to fight this enemy who threatens the unity of Iraq," Mr. Al-Rubaei said. He said that fingerprints and the "design of the attack" indicated that the shrine bombing had been the work of al-Qaeda in Iraq, along with takfiris," a reference to extremist Sunnis who regard Shiites as blasphemers. … http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/28/internation...5094&partner=homepage |
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Here is an encouraging story from Israeli politics.
Seeking change, Israelis turn to Kadima Mon Feb 27, 8:17 AM ET Israeli interim Prime Minister Ehud Olmert head of Sharon’s Kadima party has a solid 40 seat hold on the 120 seat Israeli Parliament. With elections 5 weeks away, even with the election of Hamas has not hurt the Kadima party’s hold. “Kadima's main rivals Labour and Likud, holding in the polls with around 19 and 13 seats respectively, are showing no sign of gaining momentum five weeks before the election. … Kadima's platform is one of trying to end conflict with the Palestinians and to set final borders for Israel, either through talks or through unilateral measures to separate from the Palestinians.” http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060227/lf_nm/isr...5aHJvMDdwBHNlYwN5bmNhdA-- |
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[bb]... At present in addition to the Marocs Anniversary, there is some disquiet with President Gloria Arroyo over supposed corruption in the last elections. Corruption is rife in the Philippine political system, and it is efforts to stamp it out that are behind some of the attempted coups, as individuals see their illicit income being denied them. ... Aside from the "business/politics as usual" slant, several sources in the US alluded to ongoing tension due to the chronic poverty. The ownership of vast amounts of land by certain families (including Arroyo) was reported to be a major factor for the lack of economic growth in the Phillipines as well as the cause for a considerable portion of the resentments. That was as far as it went in the coverage. Also, given the significant problems with Islamic insurrgents over the last 20 years I wondered how much of the tension is being generated or being exploited by these factions. What many people forget or overlook with the Philippines is that it is made up of numerous islands each with a silghtly different culture. My experience is of the main island of Luzon, and thus until 5 or 6 years ago when they started bombing in Manila the Moro National Liberation Front and latterly the Moro Islamic Liberation Front were merely organisations that operated on some other remote island. The New People's Army is a different matter, and my relatives have been subject to demands for money, thought not latterly (10 years or so). There are extremes of poverty and wealth in the Philipines, and there are tensions when slums in arround Manila containing the very poorest are cleared, but it is not clear that these tensions are wide spread and continous. Whilst there are land ownership issues - non-citizens cannot own land - I would say that these have had a minimal role in slowing economic grow, more the threat of the NPA and MILF and the resultant travel warnings one gets from home governments ie http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_2190.html. Another issue up until a few years ago was that of power, where whole areas could be subject to brown outs several times a day for several hours. These have now been solved, and there is now significant investment by major world player. However as with everywhere they are loosing out to China. There have been significant improvements in the infrastructure, for eample 15 years ago we would travel home in several stages; On arrival we would stay in Manila overnight, the following day take a 3-4hr drive out to Cabanataun City stay overnight and then do a 4-5hr drive on unmade tracks. Now we take an hour (because of the traffic) to get from the airport to a cousin's house in Manila, wash and change, 1 - 2 hrs to Cabanataun City, say high to relatives and the another 1 - 2hrs to get home, or a couple of hrs in the other direction out of Manila if we are going to where our trucking company is based. However typhoon/rainy season will inevitably see sections of the roads washed way and we invariably keep all the trucks off the road during the height of the rainy season in August. 15 years ago landline telephones were a rare commodity, my favourite hotel had a party line with the accountants next door, and there were none in our home town. 10 years ago my in-laws got a radio phone. 5 years ago mobiles could be used in populus areas, now they can be used just about everywhere, so much so that they have usurped land lines. In comparision to what we pay here calls and texts are very cheap. If one is willing to work it is actually quite easy to set oneself up in business in the Philippines and make a reasonable living. [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Feb 28, 2006 9:01:39 PM] |
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Hunting through sites for references about the Philippines, I keep coming across something that really gets on my wick, namely stating how much somebody earns, and how long thay have to work to buy a loaf of bread.
For example bread might be a stable in the UK and the US but it isn't in the Philippines, also the wheat to produce it is, as far as I am aware, imported. Thus bread is more expensive anyway and people don't buy it in the quantities we do, as a result stating how long a person has to work in the Philippines to buy a loaf of bread is a wholly meaningless comparison. These meaningless journalist measures, that distort the reader's understanding, because they do not attempt to give a true comaparsion of the differing costs of living between the readers country and that being reported on. For example my brother in-law has just finished building his house, it has taken him 5 years he has paid for it out of his earnings, it has cost him about 1,000,000 Pesos (about 10,000 Pounds), and his earning are not huge by Filipino standards. Given the size of the and finish of the property, locally in the UK it would sell for £300,000+, even borrowing 5 times my salary on a 25 year mortgage I would not be able to afford such a property. On the otherhand I get medical care free at the point of use and he has to pay for it. Also I can afford to fly to the Philippines at least every other year and stay for a month or so and in my own home, he would find it impossible to do the reverse. |
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The Lords have defeated the glorification clause again, they wouldn't if it had not be for Labour peers voting against the clause, so the Governemt cannot put it down to the Lords being stacked against them.
Clarke attacks Lords terror vote "Home Secretary Charles Clarke has criticised the House of Lords after it defeated government plans to outlaw the "glorification" of terrorism." http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4758258.stm |
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And jolly good, I say. Free_speech++.
Existing incitement laws should be sufficient. |
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[dd]And jolly good, I say. Free_speech++. Existing incitement laws should be sufficient. Our current laws are "pre 21st century terrorism." New legislation is being proposed only because the old legislation has so far repeatedly failed to protect society from repeated terrorist acts of mass destruction. The article cited by bb above makes this fact clear: "But critics say existing laws - and plans for a new offence to prevent indirect encouragement of terrorism - mean the glorification offence is not needed." [Itals added] We are not discussing "if," but "how." "Freedom is not the power to do what one wants. Freedom is the power to do what is right." Pope John Paul II ![]() |
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[dd]And jolly good, I say. Free_speech++. Existing incitement laws should be sufficient. Our current laws are "pre 21st century terrorism." New legislation is being proposed only because the old legislation has so far repeatedly failed to protect society from repeated terrorist acts of mass destruction. The article cited by bb above makes this fact clear: "But critics say existing laws - and plans for a new offence to prevent indirect encouragement of terrorism - mean the glorification offence is not needed." [Itals added] We are not discussing "if," but "how." Although the government appear to be squaring up for a fight, my hope is that they will see sense and not try to get the glorification clause through, as I have stated before in this thread it is to wooly and could all too easily curtail legitimate free speech rather that prosecuting those we want to remove from our society, the in direct encouragement of terrorism clause is a far better way of doing it. I note that Mrs Arroyo has lifted the state of emergency in the RP: Arroyo ends Philippine emergency "Philippine President Gloria Arroyo has lifted the state of emergency imposed a week ago amid an alleged coup plot." http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4769324.stm Now is Bush going to do a similar deal with Pakistan? US and India seal nuclear accord "The US and India have finalised a controversial nuclear deal after talks in Delhi between President George W Bush and Indian PM Manmohan Singh. " http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4764826.stm I don't believe that he should Pakistan being a particulary unstable state and potentially a terrorist recuiting and training centre and I don't believe that he potentially should have in India, but I just wonder how this plays out in Muslim countries and in particular in Iran. |
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[bb]Although the government appear to be squaring up for a fight, my hope is that they will see sense and not try to get the glorification clause through, as I have stated before in this thread it is to wooly and could all too easily curtail legitimate free speech rather that prosecuting those we want to remove from our society, the in direct encouragement of terrorism clause is a far better way of doing it. Any differences that you and I have regarding this issue I believe is simply that you appear to believe that this particular "glorification" clause exposes the UK to more of a "freedom of speech threat" than it actually offers legitimate protection to society against potential terrorist attacks. My own view is shaped by more of a “backdoor approach.” It is not my view that differs from your own, it is our perspectives that appear to me to be at odds. It is obvious to me that our countries are suffering from the illness of "freedom turned to license and entitlement." Unbridled greed has replaced ethics and values. Our unique national characters, originally built upon the time-tested bedrock of personal responsibility/integrity, are being rapidly degraded by a warped interpretation of the legitimate roles of the citizen, government, law and religion. Part of this “syndrome” is that we are so preoccupied by this neurotic compulsion to protect our freedoms from “big brother” (there are already more than enough safeguards in place) that we are literally blind to everything else. ![]() I note that Mrs Arroyo has lifted the state of emergency in the RP: Arroyo ends Philippine emergency "Philippine President Gloria Arroyo has lifted the state of emergency imposed a week ago amid an alleged coup plot." http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4769324.stm Thanks for the links. It appears that things are calm for the time being, but unless Arroyo makes some big changes the calm will not last. During my research I came across the startling fact that the Islamic resistance has been an active and ongoing force in the southern one-third of the Phillipines since the Spanish arrived in 1521! ![]() Now is Bush going to do a similar deal with Pakistan? US and India seal nuclear accord "The US and India have finalised a controversial nuclear deal after talks in Delhi between President George W Bush and Indian PM Manmohan Singh. " http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4764826.stm I don't believe that he should Pakistan being a particulary unstable state and potentially a terrorist recuiting and training centre and I don't believe that he potentially should have in India, but I just wonder how this plays out in Muslim countries and in particular in Iran. I'd certainly have loved to have been a "fly on the wall" when this strategy was being discussed. I'm still waiting for that to come on. Somehow, this strategy "just feels right" to me. But then I remember who's promoting it. ![]() |
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The following post is not directed at any poster. Nor is it in response to any post or opinions other than my own.
US nuclear plant leaks fuel health concerns Sat Mar 4, 12:38 PM ET CHICAGO (Reuters) - Years of radioactive waste water spills from Illinois nuclear power plants have fueled suspicions the industry covers up safety problems and sparked debate about the risks from exposure to low-level radiation. ... http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060304/bs_nm/nuc...5aHJvMDdwBHNlYwN5bmNhdA-- Now this is the kind of governmental abuse of power that concerns me. When news like this leaks out, big-business/government know that they are about to lose lots of money. Wealth and power (the access to limited and valued resources) are the only real concerns of those in power. People jumping up and down while protesting about free trade, the environment or the war in Iraq doesn't bother those in power one bit. Why should it? It doesn't threaten profits. Rarely does it make any difference in how people vote. If anything protesting is seen as a great safety valve which keeps troublemakers from doing anything really useful. As long as those in power confine their misdeeds to accepting bribes, destroying the environment and covering up expensive lawsuits, it's all just "business as usual." But let one homicidal, child-molesting psychotic accuse some politician of allegedly covering up for some police officer, who somehow supposedly violated his civil liberties by putting handcuffs on him so tightly that he developed a permanent rash (that he already had for 40 years); and suddenly you now actually do have a politician who really is in serious jeopardy of losing his job (depending on just how much the press can manage to milk the story for, that is.) Sorry, but thousands of whacked out fanatics with unlimited petrol$s and a burning desire to blow themselves up in the process of annihilating Western civilization really does worry me more. ![]() |
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