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Robokapp
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Re: WCG migration to a new environment finally complete

well... it's Monday... again ...October is slowly following September.
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Re: WCG migration to a new environment finally complete

I'm starting to wonder how important any of these projects are to them.

I'm running folding@home right now. No lack of work there.
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Re: WCG migration to a new environment finally complete

And another day passed. No workunits, no communication.

How long wil it take them for the 2-hour migration 6 weeks ago? Another 6 weeks?
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Re: WCG migration to a new environment finally complete

Its simple...WCG is BOINC. BOINC is complex. This is also a multi project system which makes things even more interesting.

next its a academic program not a fully funded like Rosetta or the others.
WCG has a small IT team and this has become more than a group of two or three can do to chase down and fix all the bugs that keep coming in a short amount of time.

wildhagen - comm is less important than the trying to fix this IT stuff.
Besides what can they write? More IT language that we don't understand?
I would like to see more comm from them as well, but there is no money for a full time moderator here. this is almost the same as Rosetta. The forums are a free for all, there is no mod and there is never any news from them. We recently had that IPV4 thing and we had to figure it out ourselves and repeat it to everyone that came later in the forum and didn't read the solution or didn't know where to go.

Plus as you know, the people with the news that write in the forums here don't ever say much. And these IT issues have been going on ever since IBM dumped them. The move to SharcNet was painful. Now they do a hardware upgrade and things go sideways and its even more painful.

its just the way it goes in the Academic BOINC world.

Folding is there own system, there own software and no ties to BOINC. So they have full control and don't need all the stuff needed to work with BOINC.

As your favorite AI bot to compare WCG against FAH and it will give you more detailed answers...perhaps more fluff, but it basically boils down to academic vs shall we say "commercial"
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Its simple...WCG is BOINC. BOINC is complex. This is also a multi project system which makes things even more interesting.
Not really, they are called projects here, but that are just different project applications. Most BOINC projects have more than one application, PrimeGrid has 23.
From all the information we got so far, it's not BOINC causing all the issues, but all that custom crap they got from IBM and which they unfortunately didn't get rid of in all those months they needed to get it to run the first time.
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Re: WCG migration to a new environment finally complete

This migration has gone as expected from my perspective, and given past experience. It was highly optimistic for a system migration & upgrade of this scope to be problem free. Our large system migrations at work take months of planning and work, and even then there's always some small unexpected issues to resolve that were not found in testing.

I largely agree with @Greg_BE. However, I'd add that WCG should pick a few long-term WCG members to act as forum moderators. That doesn't cost them anything.

This is a charitable contribution / low effort volunteer work from our end. I believe in the work, so I'll contiue the effort when they're back up. Hopefully the new environment once fully live, will provide some long-term system stability.
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Re: WCG migration to a new environment finally complete

It seems most of my completed tasks (results) have been reported and now show up in my Results tab as of Oct 8 early AM UTC.. These recently reported tasks are Pending Validation.

BTW, very nice quote Paul Schlaffer!
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Re: WCG migration to a new environment finally complete

It seems most of my completed tasks (results) have been reported and now show up in my Results tab as of Oct 8 early AM UTC.. These recently reported tasks are Pending Validation.

BTW, very nice quote Paul Schlaffer!

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We definitely have progress. Likewise, my pending uploads have now been sent, and the most recent messages in the Event Log are "no tasks available". We also need a successful stats update run.
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Re: WCG migration to a new environment finally complete

Cool, so let's give it another 19 days before uploads/downloads work?


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Re: WCG migration to a new environment finally complete

And another day passed. No workunits, no communication.

How long wil it take them for the 2-hour migration 6 weeks ago? Another 6 weeks?

to be honest, let's face it: since they've left IBM, it never worked like before :-(
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